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MaxSynths wrote: Urs wrote: Dunno what the laugh is about
Oh I know it. If you tell to the assholes that a clip is Diva then it sounds good because it's Diva. If you tell that a real analog is Saurus then it sounds like shit. This is the proof that people are talking out of their a**. No.... if a clip is diva and sounds shit i will say it sounds shit and i am sure many others would too. Saurus doesn't sound bad as almost all have agreed, it just doesn't sound analog. You are very rude! ---- Please call me Theo. |
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pdxindy wrote: filter303 wrote: Saurus might not be Diva. But Tone2 has made the claims that this is an authentic analog emulation. It makes perfectly sense that it's being compared to a synth that most people agree of being the most authentic analog emulation in the existence.
"The circuits of several famous synthesizers have been measured, analyzed and carefully modeled" What synths are they? If they sound anything like this, I would like to know so I can avoid ever buying them. FM, drive, extreme resonance and filter feedback sound so bad that I find it unbelievable that they are modelled from classic synthesizers. +1 I don't care if it sounds like Diva... In fact I don't want it to cause I have Diva. I just want it to sound good in its own way... I wish it did kind of sound like Diva but with the new cpu load so i could use a few instances realtime and have an entirely analog sounding track. I am actually disappointed in that respect. ---- Please call me Theo. |
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mellotronaut wrote: dos it sond like a virus?
Surprisingly, yes it kind of does a bit ---- Please call me Theo. |
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LeVzi wrote: Would be nice for people to judge the synth on the synth alone, and give up on the endless comparisons, as we all bias plays the biggest part here.
Saurus is an excellent synth, that offers a great deal, you draw your own conclusions on how it would suit you. I think you are missing the point LeVzi.. others have said it better than i can but if there wasn't almost 50 pages of hype and build up and comparisons to "other products", we probably would be judging it on the synth alone. Tone 2 have started this.. action, reaction.. it's the way the world works. I think most people have done a pretty good job regardless in praising the synth for what it is and it seems quite a few have bought it already. I mean if you expect Tone2 to taunt and tease and we have this high expectation of something analog sounding and then it arrives and it's just not, that's going to be the first reaction,and THEN, oh but it sounds nice.. or not ---- Please call me Theo. |
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Saurus doesn't sound 'that' analog. Some patches do appear to be analog but not many of them. The behavior of the filter is a little strange. Sometimes it has some sweet spots for analog sounds but sometimes it doesn't. Had this synth sound completely analog, I do not think Tone2 would price Saurus at this price.
In terms of CPU, no one can denies this syn is efficient. But to say this synth sounds completely analog is some way off. There even to be some Gladiator ghost when tweaking the knobs. As an owner of Diva, I would still buy Saurus for its sound, UI, and the vast amount of patches made by pro sound-designers. No reasons why one can't have both. |
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ttoz wrote: pdxindy wrote: filter303 wrote: Saurus might not be Diva. But Tone2 has made the claims that this is an authentic analog emulation. It makes perfectly sense that it's being compared to a synth that most people agree of being the most authentic analog emulation in the existence.
"The circuits of several famous synthesizers have been measured, analyzed and carefully modeled" What synths are they? If they sound anything like this, I would like to know so I can avoid ever buying them. FM, drive, extreme resonance and filter feedback sound so bad that I find it unbelievable that they are modelled from classic synthesizers. +1 I don't care if it sounds like Diva... In fact I don't want it to cause I have Diva. I just want it to sound good in its own way... I wish it did kind of sound like Diva but with the new cpu load so i could use a few instances realtime and have an entirely analog sounding track. I am actually disappointed in that respect. It takes cpu cycles to have that sort of sound quality. In Diva you can turn up feedback, Filter FM and resonance and still get a pleasing high end... and you pay for it with high cpu... no way around that... |
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So Tone2, any plans to change demo restrictions..?
Let me throw this can of gas into the bonfire... Can strict demo restrictions lead people into "try before you buy" or whatever that slogan is? (no, i will not say yarr) And please, let's stay in reality, not in a developers utopia. If you want to make money of your software, is this the way to go? Please take a step back, gascan is about to explode ---- Mulab-MUX-Diversion-TX16Wx-SKNOTE-Charlatan-Valhalla-GordonSmith-YamahaTHR10-Trackspacer-TheDrop/Glue-Drumaxx-VOS-DC8C [i5 2500K @ 4,3GHz] [8Gb DDR3] [200Gb+ SSD][M-Audio Delta 24/96 PCI] |
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ttoz wrote: You are very rude!
Oh come on! Has been said with sympathy, after all Just used that out of place words to highlight that a lot of comments and the way that has been expressed were out of place, IMO. In any case I apologize for the rudeness! ttoz wrote: Saurus doesn't sound bad as almost all have agreed, it just doesn't sound analog.
And I totally agree with you. Just think that I'm the one that always said, in every single "analog vs VST" thread, that a VST plugin will never sound analog, and this is what I continue to think! Max EDIT: *despite my personal opinion it's true that an instrument or effect can be modelled after a particular piece of gear. And this is not a myth or a business strategy as someone said: there's a lot of work involved to reach the final results! So a ton of respect to Urs, Markus and everyone involved in this kind of research. The final result can be so different because the starting point can be very different: there's not only one type of analog synthesizer (Moog). |
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oh there are no hard feelings, i completely accept your apology ---- Please call me Theo. |
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ttoz wrote: himalaya wrote: ttoz wrote: himalaya wrote: ttoz wrote: At himalaya, that last demo almost pierce my eardrum. Grrrr. Which one? the high resonance demo. ouch. This one? http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/Saurus/Steep_Res_Swee p.wav no... from memory this one sat in the highs a lot, i should have quoted it then and there. grr But there is no other clip of mine in this thread with a more sharp or high frequency sound, which could possibly have that effect as you described. ? This is the only one, the real analog sound, which you found uncomfortable. Last edited by himalaya on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:11 am; edited 1 time in total |
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ttoz wrote: I wish it did kind of sound like Diva but with the new cpu load so i could use a few instances realtime and have an entirely analog sounding track.
What IS "analog sounding track" ? How do you define one ? can you set it apart from tracks that doesn't sound "analog" or sound "half-analog" ? Can you tell that the sound was not treated with some "mojo" eq, but it actually sound like that from it's inception ? WILL IT MATTER ? As the nick "aMused" is already taken, I am SERIOUSLY pondering the idea of changing mines to "bMused" (bemused) Just make music, people. there is a place for everyone |
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I can't get the audio to play. So, I guess I'll just do a steep res sweep in my head......
Buzzzuuuuurrruuuuuuwwooooooowwwwwwwwsshhhhhhhhhh...... |
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eytanmich123 wrote: Just make music, people. there is a place for everyone +1 Again, congrats to Tone2 on the release of Saurus Rob |
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Crackbaby wrote: So Tone2, any plans to change demo restrictions..?
Let me throw this can of gas into the bonfire... Can strict demo restrictions lead people into "try before you buy" or whatever that slogan is? (no, i will not say yarr) And please, let's stay in reality, not in a developers utopia. If you want to make money of your software, is this the way to go? Please take a step back, gascan is about to explode Are the demo restrictions as bad as with ElectraX? When I tried to demo ElectraX during one of it's many "call home, open the Tone 2 website" episodes my computer locked up and after that would not boot. The boot sector was corrupt and I had to repair my system. I can't say for sure ElectraX was at fault as it could have just been a coincidence but I'm not taking any chances with any more Tone 2 demos.....and since I don't buy what I can't demo.......... ---- None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe |
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