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Catanya tips?

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Postby braj; Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:28 pm Catanya tips?

I recently got Catanya and one of the limitations/difficulties it seems to me is to have patterns easily change within a track. I just figured out how to handle this in one way in Reaper, I don't know if this will work the same in other hosts or if this is the best way to go about it, but this is what I'm doing and it is working well for me:

I'm creating new midi items on a track that doesn't have any instrument, then adding Catanya as a track effect as the first item in the chain, then the VST for the voice. I am doing this for each unique arpeggiated sequence, and can put a different instrument or tweaked version of the same patch for each, so that gives some more control. This way I can easily switch between instances of Catanya and change the patters easily without worrying about pattern change messages, which I'm not even sure how to do in Catanya. Is this the most efficient way of dealing with this? I'm guessing the biggest downside is if I wanted to adjust some plugin parameter on the VST across midi clips, but I don't do that much, so it isn't a big issue for me. Reaper reports the inactive clips @ 0% CPU use and the transition between clips seems flawless, so I am just wondering if I'm going about it all wrong or being pretty clever :)
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Postby braj; Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:38 pm

This can also be done at a preliminary level when working on the arrangement, and later render the arps to midi, disable Catanya for that clip and make changes, while still having the other clips use Catanya to drive them until I'm happy with the arrangement. Catanya and the patterns remain on the track but disabled but there in case I need to edit them later.
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Postby braj; Sun Feb 19, 2012 7:44 pm

OK, it looks like this way is just too memory intensive. So for now I will just render to midi and move on. I thought I had a good system but maybe not. Any hints on Catanya workflow would be appreciated.
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Postby timbesamusca; Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:21 am

Why not just use one track on which you load the instrument and use multiple tracks with only catanya on it and let them all send midi to that instrument track?
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Postby braj; Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:53 am

timnl85 wrote:Why not just use one track on which you load the instrument and use multiple tracks with only catanya on it and let them all send midi to that instrument track?


See, this is why it is good to ask questions :) I would rather not use so many tracks, that's why I was trying to get it all on one, but that works well and keeps everything in place. Just a project with a lot of different arps will get big really fast, but I guess I can hide them away easy enough. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Postby timbesamusca; Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:54 pm

What I do myself is when I have a good pattern going and a nice chord progression I record it to a midi track. This way it frees up Catanya for experimenting with other patterns.
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Postby braj; Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:10 pm

timnl85 wrote:What I do myself is when I have a good pattern going and a nice chord progression I record it to a midi track. This way it frees up Catanya for experimenting with other patterns.


Yeah I'm doing that now, and in Reaper it is cool because I can make a bunch of takes, drag them to the track the VST is on, mute the Catanya track, and then switch between the takes to compare patterns. But I'd like to go back to the original patterns if I can, especially the original ones I create myself since apparently you can't save your own original patterns in Catanya, unless I'm missing something. I actually took a picture of the screen to 'save' a pattern yesterday :)
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Postby timbesamusca; Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:32 pm

What you can do to save a pattern is click on the + button (above the plugin GUI, next to the 'Param' button) and then you can choose 'Export vst patch/bank file (.fxp/.fxb)' and save your preset as mypattern.fxp (or any other name of course).

You can load those saved presets with 'Import vst patch/bank file (.fxp/.fxb)'

That should be better than taking a screenshot. ;)
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Postby braj; Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:44 pm

timnl85 wrote:What you can do to save a pattern is click on the + button (above the plugin GUI, next to the 'Param' button) and then you can choose 'Export vst patch/bank file (.fxp/.fxb)' and save your preset as mypattern.fxp (or any other name of course).

You can load those saved presets with 'Import vst patch/bank file (.fxp/.fxb)'

That should be better than taking a screenshot. ;)


Oh I guess it is a display refresh bug, I saved as a preset in Reaper and didn't think it saved it, when selecting the RPL preset it would not update Catanya, but if you click the Browser button and then click the Sequencer button again it shows it as loaded. So that is good :)
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