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EWQLSO alternatives?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:52 pm
by canadianlight
Can anyone recommend any newer library that has the cold and "austere" sound of the EWQLSO?

Something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxuaDhXlJeU


Jeremy Soule endorses Garritan, but I'm sure the bulk of this track is not made with Garritan.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:13 am
by canadianlight
anyone?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:18 am
by tehlord
Spitfire Albion combined with LASS

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:28 am
by EvilDragon
tehlord wrote:Spitfire Albion combined with LASS


Word.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:33 am
by canadianlight
tehlord wrote:Spitfire Albion combined with LASS


Thanks! Didn't think of the "combining" option.

Can you describe the sound of Albion? The demo on the Spitfire site isn't enough.

I just find the stuff like SAM and HollywoodStrings/Brass too colored.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:35 am
by tehlord
canadianlight wrote:
tehlord wrote:Spitfire Albion combined with LASS


Thanks! Didn't think of the "combining" option.

Can you describe the sound of Albion? The demo on the Spitfire site isn't enough.

I just find the stuff like SAM and HollywoodStrings/Brass too colored.




I think it's the right side of epic

http://soundcloud.com/alexpfeffer/feel-the-steam

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:29 pm
by canadianlight
tehlord wrote:
canadianlight wrote:
tehlord wrote:Spitfire Albion combined with LASS


Thanks! Didn't think of the "combining" option.

Can you describe the sound of Albion? The demo on the Spitfire site isn't enough.

I just find the stuff like SAM and HollywoodStrings/Brass too colored.


I think it's the right side of epic

http://soundcloud.com/alexpfeffer/feel-the-steam


Does the LASS mix well with other libraries?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:39 pm
by EvilDragon
Why wouldn't it? It's all in the person doing the mixing ;)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:17 pm
by canadianlight
Why is the EWQLSO being recommended everywhere as an "orchestral synth"? Does it include sample manipulating features beyond what samplers like kontakt do?

Maybe that's why it sounds "synthy" and are used for games?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:33 am
by synaesthesia
I can also recommend the combination of Albion and LASS Lite and it's a lovely string sound.

Albion also has brass and winds, but you'll want something else with a little more detail in thos areas too. Cinesamples being an option.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:27 pm
by canadianlight
synaesthesia wrote:I can also recommend the combination of Albion and LASS Lite and it's a lovely string sound.

Albion also has brass and winds, but you'll want something else with a little more detail in thos areas too. Cinesamples being an option.


I was concerned that the LASS Lite would not be layerable onto anything else because it already has 16 violins. The total sum of the sounds wold overwhelm.

I think some nice sounding sample-based synths may be a better option here if all I do is mix them inside the rich harmonic textures of something like Albion?

Can anyone recommend any?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:11 am
by EvilDragon
canadianlight wrote:Why is the EWQLSO being recommended everywhere as an "orchestral synth"? Does it include sample manipulating features beyond what samplers like kontakt do?

Maybe that's why it sounds "synthy" and are used for games?



Whoever said "orchestral synth" is an idiot, sorry. It's not a synth, it has very VERY basic options to change the sound, basically just the envelope, and the reverb (in PLAY engine version, not within Kontakt - in the old Kontakt EWQLSO... you can load it in Kontakt and play to your heart's content with it). It's an orchestral sample library, not a synth.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:06 am
by canadianlight
Does anyone have Cinematic Strings here? How does it sound, because the demos all sound very dark and "romantic". I'm not sure if it's the sound of the samples themselves or if they are dressing the demos up to compete with HS. But that is the kind of sound I do not want.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:47 pm
by synaesthesia
canadianlight wrote:I was concerned that the LASS Lite would not be layerable onto anything else because it already has 16 violins. The total sum of the sounds wold overwhelm.

Well, if you played both libraries at full tilt, perhaps. But the idea is that you blend the sounds.

For me, LASS covers the detail, plays the lines (and I tone the dynamics down from full, where it's a little scratchy) and then I have Albion's strings playing under the violins and cellos to add that warmth and air.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:26 pm
by canadianlight
How dry is the close mic of the EWQLSO? I think maybe it can be layered onto OSR2 to create an atmospheric sound.

Or maybe Session Strings Pro?