That's exactly what I'm talking about - who is going to draw the line?

I live next to my grandmother. She wouldn't even know Status Quo from Marilyn Manson. Then again, B.B. King probably would and he's about her age.

I've also heard people call DnB music 'Techno', just like that.

well techno is a sub genre itself, while the widely agreed upon group of genres is most often referred to as "electronica", i just drop the "a" and called it plain old "electronic music".

there are a lot of people stuck in the 80s though calling it techno.

(chiptunes fall under electronic, while they're sure not techno!)

when i'm thinking "techno", i'm thinking something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jQ_bOP0HfY

although you might normally hear more juno-60 and mono synths there rather than the 909 and m1 and so on. that's it in general though.

Chiptune is just a way of making music. You can make chiptunes that fall under any other genre.

If you've got trouble with your bowels and you've only just turned 30, you've got a whole world of amazement and frustration yet to come. It's barely started...

Yes, techno.

not particularly, in Europe. Its mostly a US-centric useage.

well if we're making a decision based upon the majority "techno" and "video game music" wins hands down.

not a very smart argument though as it manages to completely ignore the details of the issue. that is, for those who know the genre "techno" doesn't equate to other genres like "house" much like "electro" doesn't equate to "gabber" and are aware of the potential for confusion, even "electronica" isn't a very good name.

i vote for "technotronica".

I don't know - if techno is a subgenre in itself then what is something like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28Cjbv51Yc

compared to say the 808 State tune? They both could reasonably called Techno though the difference couldn't be more obvious (I'm more of a Shufflemaster person myself when it comes to 4/4).

i think techno has in some places become a genre much like "80s". if not exactly like "80s" only pointing to a slightly different set of styles around the same time.

the old ridiculous sub-genres either meld together or the names get recycled so often they just no longer mean anything even remotely like what they were originally used to describe.

there is another example that i would say fits into the "techno" category these days. is it trance? not by modern standards. i've heard it called that more than anything. i've also heard "rave" and "techno" used frequently for the whole group of tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZFW6wiDONE

the person who wrote the details for the clip seems to agree with the way i prefer to label such things. electronic/techno.

This is truly the most level headed, entertaining and funny thread I have read in a long time. You people are most welcome at the next Tri-Anual Psychonaut Soapbox Shennanigans Tournament for the Sidewaysly Gifted here in Nowtown Funsylvania.

Unfortunately, it's describe or BE descibed.

It's worse when you're just trying to upload an idea to share on soundcloud. I feel lacklustre enough without resorting to the "Electronic" genre. Well, it's either that or ROCK, and my tubes need replacing so I guess it's back to the ol' genre drawing board for THIS old war-horse. Clean out my pots and call me mal-adjusted, cos I is Fluff-Step.


Thanks guys and gals

just consider yourself lucky for not being the one to invent skacid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84p2WyzyCM

don't get me started... and buddha-hop.

People call the now vibrationaly smooshed genre of 'Goa Trance' - "Psychedelic Trance", which I feel is quit often about as psychedelic as getting beaten to death at 16ths with a 4x2. I guess if you read the varied dictionary definitions of 'psychedelic' then you could be right either way!? I myself feel that the word implys some form of ambience and could not genuinely exist within a dark and abrasive 'sub-shaman' mutilation of frequencies. But each to their own.

Chill-step isn't the worst I've heard. Like Andy says, it is pretty straight forward. I do understand where you're coming from though.

I still call most of my favourite dance-music "psychedelic techno" though for some reason, so i guess I'm my own ignorant non-progressive worst enemy when it comes to getting cheesed off about music sub-genres.

WOW! Coming from a fan of both Ska and the sound of the TB303, I must say, THAT is WELL bad.

There is a very distinct difference between goa and psy trance ... so don't get me started on that one

Peace,
Andy.

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