Waldorf Pulse 2 or Mopho?

[breakmixer]

Reading that it will be polyphonic has me interested, anyone know if it will have a VST editor and what price these will be sold at, otherwise I may opt for a Mopho this year(seems to be a couple of new VST editors available for this now) but the Mopho is only monophonic...?

[Ingonator]

Reading that it will be polyphonic has me interested, anyone know if it will have a VST editor and what price these will be sold at, otherwise I may opt for a Mopho this year(seems to be a couple of new VST editors available for this now) but the Mopho is only monophonic...?

Hi,

the Pulse 2 will be monophonic and "paraphonic" which is related to e.g. String Machines.

There is no info about an editor so far but the release will be in summer so if you need a synth now you mayb have to go for the Mopho.

I'll visit the Musikmesse in Frankfurt in two weeks (with invitation by Waldorf). Maybe i could tell a bit more after speaking with Wolfram Franke and/or other people from Waldorf. They are good at keeping secrets, even with their Betatesters...
BTW last year they presented an Alpha version of Waldorf Lector at the Musikmesse which none of the betatesters had heard about before. The Betatest started around two weeks later. Of course this is more difficult for a hardware product like the Pulse 2.

Personally i got a Moog Slim Phatty in August of last year which i am very happy with. there are also Standalone and VST editors for that which are commercial products. Of course am interested in the Pulse 2 too. An alternative to the Slim Phatty would have been a second hand Pulse 1 for me.


Ingo

[breakmixer]

the Pulse 2 will be monophonic and "paraphonic" which is related to e.g. String Machines.

I read that you can play up to 8 voice chords, they actually said "with paraphonic modes that allow up to eight voice chords.", so I took that as polyphony? I think quite alot of people haven't heard of paraphonic, maybe.
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I'll visit the Musikmesse in Frankfurt in two weeks (with invitation by Waldorf). Maybe i could tell a bit more after speaking with Wolfram Franke and/or other people from Waldorf. They are good at keeping secrets, even with their Betatesters...

That would be great, I'm in no rush to buy, such alot of choice right now, Minbrute, Pulse 2, Mopho are the ones I'm drawn to. I just want to own one true analog, I'd rather a polyphonic one because I know if I get they bug I won't be happy with just a monophonic....

So is paraphonic a poly in disguise?

Cheers...

[zerocrossing]

Reading that it will be polyphonic has me interested, anyone know if it will have a VST editor and what price these will be sold at, otherwise I may opt for a Mopho this year(seems to be a couple of new VST editors available for this now) but the Mopho is only monophonic...?

I tried one of the MoPho VST editors and it seemed OK... I think it kept losing connection though but that might have been one of the demo restrictions. I ended up not buying it because I've gotten used to using the Soundtower editor which can run along side of Live and then it's just a matter of calling up the correct patch when I launch a project. My trick is to name the track with the patch number. Easy as pie.

But asking about the Pulse 2 v MoPho is premature as the Pulse 2 isn't even available yet. I love my MoPho, but I also bought a Slim Phatty because I was looking for a different tone to complement it. I also have an ATC-1, which is maybe the best sounding of the three. Anyway, I think if I didn't have an analog monophonic and could buy only one at this point I'd probably wait for the Pulse 2 and Arturia's Minibrute and then spend time with all of them before I made a choice.

[breakmixer]

I tried one of the MoPho VST editors and it seemed OK...

...Anyway, I think if I didn't have an analog monophonic and could buy only one at this point I'd probably wait for the Pulse 2 and Arturia's Minibrute and then spend time with all of them before I made a choice.

Out of interest which Mopho VST editor did you try, was it?

http://mkdr.net/m/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=28

or

http://rekonaudio.com/index.php?page=sh ... &Itemid=29

or

http://code.google.com/p/ctrlr/downloads/list?can=1&q=

or

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2010/01/ ... nts-mopho/

I followed the last link but seems that 'Mocontrol beta' one is no longer available here http://rhythminmind.net/1313/...

Cheers...

[zerocrossing]

I tried one of the MoPho VST editors and it seemed OK...

...Anyway, I think if I didn't have an analog monophonic and could buy only one at this point I'd probably wait for the Pulse 2 and Arturia's Minibrute and then spend time with all of them before I made a choice.

Out of interest which Mopho VST editor did you try, was it?

http://mkdr.net/m/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=28

or

http://rekonaudio.com/index.php?page=sh ... &Itemid=29

or

http://code.google.com/p/ctrlr/downloads/list?can=1&q=

or

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2010/01/ ... nts-mopho/

I followed the last link but seems that 'Mocontrol beta' one is no longer available here http://rhythminmind.net/1313/...

Cheers...

Not sure... I'm not at that computer but it was one of the first two...

[djshire]

Paraphonic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphony

[musikmachine]

I tried one of the MoPho VST editors and it seemed OK...

...Anyway, I think if I didn't have an analog monophonic and could buy only one at this point I'd probably wait for the Pulse 2 and Arturia's Minibrute and then spend time with all of them before I made a choice.

Out of interest which Mopho VST editor did you try, was it?

http://mkdr.net/m/index.php?option=com_ ... &Itemid=28

or

http://rekonaudio.com/index.php?page=sh ... &Itemid=29

or

http://code.google.com/p/ctrlr/downloads/list?can=1&q=

or

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2010/01/ ... nts-mopho/

I followed the last link but seems that 'Mocontrol beta' one is no longer available here http://rhythminmind.net/1313/...

Cheers...

Not sure... I'm not at that computer but it was one of the first two...

I've just tried the mkdr and it does lose the connection after a few minutes.

[breakmixer]

I've just tried the mkdr and it does lose the connection after a few minutes.

He does mention to not use a cheap midi to usb cable, if you can run midi leads into another bit of equipment it may work better maybe, how did you connect it? Midi routing confuses me even though I have a few synths/hardware with midi leads connected...I do prefer using midi to usb's!

[breakmixer]

I've just tried the mkdr and it does lose the connection after a few minutes.

MKDR said about the demo!
"Oh but sir, it's not free
It works for 3 minutes, then cuts out the midi port."

That's a demo restriction, still like to know if you used a midi to usb though musikmachine, cheers....

[musikmachine]

I've just tried the mkdr and it does lose the connection after a few minutes.

MKDR said about the demo!
"Oh but sir, it's not free
It works for 3 minutes, then cuts out the midi port."

That's a demo restriction, still like to know if you used a midi to usb though musikmachine, cheers....

Oh yeah!

I used the midi ports on an infrasonic quartet pci soundcard. It's old but has the most relaible midi ports of all the gear i use when it comes to patch dumps and two way communication with editors.

[breakmixer]

Paraphonic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphony

Paraphony is the property of an electronic musical instrument that can produce multiple notes or voices, but falls short of being truly polyphonic because the voices are not fully independent since they share at least one common element. For example, there might be just one single filter working on all voices collectively rather than the one filter per voice of truly polyphonic instruments; or there might be only one envelope generator.

So how would that effect the sound, I thought all synths had only 1 filter through which all the oscillators/voices ran through?

[breakmixer]

I've just tried the mkdr and it does lose the connection after a few minutes.

MKDR said about the demo!
"Oh but sir, it's not free
It works for 3 minutes, then cuts out the midi port."

That's a demo restriction, still like to know if you used a midi to usb though musikmachine, cheers....

Oh yeah!

I used the midi ports on an infrasonic quartet pci soundcard. It's old but has the most relaible midi ports of all the gear i use when it comes to patch dumps and two way communication with editors.

Think the penny has dropped with my ctrlr vst editor controlling my DX-21 Yamaha, I'm using a cheap midi to usb cable, the vst ui doesn't change the patches, I'm going to try routing that differently...

[zerocrossing]

I've just tried the mkdr and it does lose the connection after a few minutes.

MKDR said about the demo!
"Oh but sir, it's not free
It works for 3 minutes, then cuts out the midi port."

That's a demo restriction, still like to know if you used a midi to usb though musikmachine, cheers....

#1) make your demo limitations clear on the download page
#2) 3 minutes? That's about enough time to go, "Oh I see how this works."

Stil, it did seem like it worked during those precious moments. I think I will actually pick that up. Now if only they'd do the Prophet '08 and the Evolver.

[breakmixer]

#1) make your demo limitations clear on the download page
#2) 3 minutes? That's about enough time to go, "Oh I see how this works."

Stil, it did seem like it worked during those precious moments. I think I will actually pick that up. Now if only they'd do the Prophet '08 and the Evolver.

mkdr,

what are the demo restrictions, none are listed on your site, a couple of people have tried the demo and say it looses connection after a few minutes, if so you should put this info about the demo - they may think it's buggy, if I hear this is working well for people I may be buying a mopho, cheers...

A fair point. Thank you. It does indeed cut the connection after 180 seconds(if i recall.. im on the road again). The GUI clearly shows you a rundown of seconds left, but i'll add a better mention of it on the website.

Seems he will actually being doing that, if you do buy it Zerocrossing can you please let us know how you get on with it?

Cheers...

Demo should be longer though, at least 10 minutes to get running/set up/test...