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tehlord wrote: izonin wrote: tehlord wrote: I'd hazard a guess that it's because these threads are usually started by people who are already using softsynths, and want to know if buying a Virus will turn them into Armin. Not Armin, but Orjan Nilsen! That guy knows how to use the Virus and his tracks are pure heaven. Armin was just a name I plucked out of the aether, it's just an illustration that a lot of people will think they need a Virus as it's the only way to sound like producer X And just for the record, Nilsen stated that Sylenth1 was pretty much a replacement for the Virus for 'that' sound. I came to the same conclusion 2 years ago when I sold my Ti. Ye, funny that! They never seem to consider that the actual song needs to be worth something as well  Well, that's how SW and HW companies make money of course... selling millions of copies / units to dreamers with no clue  Classic. |
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GeorgeZ wrote: Well, that's how SW and HW companies make money of course... selling millions of copies / units to dreamers with no clue Classic.LOL George  |
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izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. ---- At school they taught me how to be. So pure in thought and word and deed. They didn't quite succeed. |
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jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B .... ---- Musique Eurotronique |
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izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B .... I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different. ---- At school they taught me how to be. So pure in thought and word and deed. They didn't quite succeed. |
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jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. Yuo forgot to mention that Poco has different FX section, reverb is entirely different sounding, filter types are different, sound is different etc. Worth to mention  |
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jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B .... I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different. I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva. ---- Musique Eurotronique |
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izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B .... I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different. I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva. The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them). ---- At school they taught me how to be. So pure in thought and word and deed. They didn't quite succeed. |
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kmonkey wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. Yuo forgot to mention that Poco has different FX section, reverb is entirely different sounding, filter types are different, sound is different etc. Worth to mention Compared to the hardware Virus ? I doubt that,why would they do that ? ---- At school they taught me how to be. So pure in thought and word and deed. They didn't quite succeed. |
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jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B .... I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different. I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva. The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them). It's difficult to compare chips with different architecture. A 500MHz video card with a parallel processing GPU will run DirectX faster than a 3GHz Intel CPU. ---- Musique Eurotronique |
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izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B .... I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different. I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva. The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them). It's difficult to compare chips with different architecture. Yeah i know, however they are not. ---- At school they taught me how to be. So pure in thought and word and deed. They didn't quite succeed. |
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jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: jupiter8 wrote: izonin wrote: So, it's easy to imagine that a Virus VSTi would require a very fast CPU.
The Virus PowerCore ran 16 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station PowerCore ran 8 voices on a single Motorola chip. The Novation V-Station VST ran fine fine on my Pentium 4,you do the math. The PoCo Virus was a 1999 Virus B .... I know. The TI has got much faster DSPs,on the other hand it does 80 voices compared to the 24 of the B which tells me the load per voice isn't that much different. I still think that it will use 2-3 times more cycles than Largo. But, yeah, maybe less cycles than Diva. The Motorola DSP56311 does 150 MIPS according to Motorola themselves (up to 270 actually using The Enhanced Filter Coprocessor (EFCOP)) , the dual Freescale DSPB56367PV150 in the TI does 300 MIPS (which is odd since that means the actual DSP isn't faster,there's just more of them). It's difficult to compare chips with different architecture. Yeah i know, however they are not. But you get my idea. The 150MHz hardware will run the instructions faster than the software on a 1GHz CPU. ---- Musique Eurotronique |
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Now these topics are interesting indeed, a good read unlike the other one on here where people are comparing f**king waveforms of 2 competing synths lol.
Rob |
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izonin wrote: But you get my idea. The 150MHz hardware will run the instructions faster than the software on a 1GHz CPU. Well yeah but that still doesn't change the fact the the Novation V-Station VST ran fine on my PIV (don't remember how many voices though) which is twice as heavy on the DSP as the Virus. ---- At school they taught me how to be. So pure in thought and word and deed. They didn't quite succeed. |
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rob_lee wrote: Now these topics are interesting indeed, a good read unlike the other one on here where people are comparing f**king waveforms of 2 competing synths lol.
Rob Hey Rob...what is another name for Virus? |
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