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Z3TA+2 v2.1 Bug Reports
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:46 pm reply with quote
Hitting another bug in use today with Z3TA+2 made me decide it's high time I start a thread to gather all the bugs I've encountered, and hopefully get some response from Cakewalk guys - as my previous posts have gotten nothing:

1. ARP Changed:
Arp145.cmp IS NOT the arp used in version 1.41, it changed at 1.53 and was carried on into v2. Check the preset A: 063: digi pluck (mw) in 1.4 vs v2. The 1.4 version is obviously how the preset was intended to sound....makes me wonder if there are any other botched arps.

2. ARP Import/Export:
A. If you export (drag) an arp out to save it and then reload it, it loads and plays an octave higher.

B. If you export at anything other than sync set to 1, the arp pattern is changed (smashed or chopped) when you bring it in again. I realize this can be corrected with the "Autofit Patterns to 1 Measure When Loaded" enabled, but something still feels weird about this behavior.

C. Dragging TO the Arp doesn't work - The Manual says "You can also drag a MIDI file to and from the Arpeggiator graph". From works (except as noted in A) but not so with TO - at least in Cubase 5.5 and Minhost 1.64.

3. Sync to Project Tempo:
"Stuck note" arp behavior rampant in Cubase and annoying as hell. It happens if the project is stopped at a location off the tempo grid - if you snap the project back to grid the arp behaves normally. I think this is a general sync issue, as weirdness happens too with presets using synced LFOs and the project is stopped "off grid"

4. Waveshaper Acts differently on User Waves
Waveshaper controls behave inconsistently between imported User wavs vs oscill.set wavs. Try this:

Dial in a wav on OSC1, e.g. Multi Triangle
Right click in the waveform display and "Reset all shapers".
Right click in the waveform display and "Save Wavetable As".
Set Drive to the halfway mark on OSC1.
Go to OSC2 and import the saved wave in USER1 slot
Copy & paste OSC1 settings to OSC2

You should see that they don't match - you have to back the drive off somewhat on OSC2 to get it to match OSC1. This happens with other waveshaper controls but not all, and the difference can be more extreme depending on the waveform and the number of shapers used.

Doing the side by side comparison as explained above the controls found to be in error were Warp, Twist, Drive, Offset, Wave, and Bit Red. The others seemed to work right.

5. Import fxb loses name characters & Bad numbering
A. Import .fxb cuts off preset names over 23 characters, which is worsened when using Original Order since that adds 6 characters to the front of each name.

B. When importing using "Original Order", numbering should start at zero for each bank (A, B, C, D, E, F). This reflects how banks were numbered in the older versions and makes it easier to correlate.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:35 pm reply with quote
Notes hang when using Z3ta's arp in Maschine. Really annoying. Help
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:28 pm reply with quote
awol9000 wrote:
Notes hang when using Z3ta's arp in Maschine. Really annoying. Help
Yeah - it's a transport bug - see #3.....maybe you did. Useful info to note that it's broken in Maschine too Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:55 am reply with quote
1-2-Many wrote:

3. Sync to Project Tempo: It happens if the project is stopped at a location off the tempo grid - if you snap the project back to grid the arp behaves normally.


In Maschine you can go back to the start of your song or scene but the arp hangs until it is triggered by the same note it was left hanging on. I have to try and land back on the right spot when hitting stop. I feel a little like I'm playing slots in Vegas. JACKPOT! Arp stops! HiHi So I've been letting it hang and I'm getting all these weird swirling high pitched sounds. I've been hearing so much of them I'm starting to think I should add them to my track!

Sidenote, who the hell make a nice big GUI for the arp and it's uneditable with the mouse? Question
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