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FR: Visual Cues for Zebra
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:35 pm reply with quote
I was playing around with a Nord Lead 3 lately and it occurred to me how much simpler it was to know what was doing what particularly with regards to LFO modulations, envelope triggers and the like, just by looking at the LEDs respond to the LFO cycles and modulations.

Back in Zebra, it occurred to me how difficult the same thing is. There's no indication of cycle starts, modulation speeds, resultant vectors from adding different modulations, envelope triggering, etc... it would be wonderful to have visual cues that indicate module interaction and behavior as much as possible. It doesn't have to be complicated: simple virtual LEDs that essentially track the "brightness" from values would do fine. Some patches can get really complicated and it gets hard to track what's going on; this would help. Oh: and put a system wide switch in so we don't always have to see them... Wink

While I'm here: it would be really handy to have a true Modulation Mixer with proper level controls for each input. Make them add/subtract, left/right as usual and it would be easier to fine tune compounded modulation sources, IMHO.

For your consideration.... thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:38 pm reply with quote
Yeah, a rate LED would be interesting...meanwhile, just for fun here's a custom built LFO in Zebra that showes the phase, rate and you can build your custom LFO shape + have it revolve in different modes (saw = forward, tri = forward+backwards)

https://www.box.com/s/a0f5e8defb01aec5355b
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:47 pm reply with quote
Some could argue that visualization through hearing is more conducive to creating sounds. Relying on listening to the way the lfo flows, is better than relying on some graphic.
The lfo graphics in ZebraCM work good, but I never found myself looking at them.

Some could also argue that the matrix in Zebra is a "proper matrix".
In fact, even better than a proper matrix, what ever that is.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 6:55 pm reply with quote
^ I know what you mean... but I have to agree that a visual cue would be helpful... cause when I got a lot going on within a patch, sometimes seem to reach for the wrong LFO, so a LFO rate LED or something would be at least helpful for quickly spotting a particular LFO out of a bunch.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:12 pm reply with quote
A quick hack for visualization is to route a mod source into an MMap on 'map smooth' or 'map quantize'. The horizontal index then equates to the value of the modulation.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:21 pm reply with quote
A scope that showed modulations would be sweet...
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:24 pm reply with quote
pdxindy wrote:
A scope that showed modulations would be sweet...


Maybe a modular-space sort of scope? With an input socket and rate modulated by keyfollow, or tempo sync etc HiHi
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:57 am reply with quote
Funny, actually, I was just checking to see if anyone's made this suggestion in the improvements thread recently

I for one would absolutely love to have a modulation visualizer in Zebra
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