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Predator - A small feature request
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iHartBeats
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:24 pm reply with quote
Hi,
I recently bought Predator and I love it.

One request for an upcoming point release:
Would it be possible to make the start point of the waveform used for the Filter LFO, user adjustable?

It's a small thing, but a handy one.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:47 pm reply with quote
How a bout 2 waveforms that you can mix, and adjust there start points ala Circle
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:52 pm reply with quote
Interesting idea, we will have to have a look.

Cheers

Jon
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:20 am reply with quote
+1000 for this. Don't care about start points, but I really need to be able to mix saw/pulse with other waves on one oscillator, and I think I could finally emu some Virus presets ( I think I could ) Thumbs Up!
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:44 am reply with quote
Please do Jon
Cheers Richard
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:57 am reply with quote
About the LFO phase, it'll be difficult to put in a new dial, but we could have LFO phase as a modulation destination, and you can then alter it with offset.

About mixing two waveforms, if I understand, I suppose you can do that already , by using the two free LFO's , and mixing the amounts of each. I.e. LFO 1 is a sine, LFO 2 is a saw, and by both modulating the same destination, you can mix between the two by having each having different amounts of modulations.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2012 3:04 am reply with quote
I will give that a try Jon
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 7:16 am reply with quote
Concretefx wrote:
About the LFO phase, it'll be difficult to put in a new dial, but we could have LFO phase as a modulation destination, and you can then alter it with offset.

Jon


Thanks for considering this, Jon!

A question - do you see the LFO retriggering from the same point/phase with each key press? This would be an important feature, otherwise there's no point really.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:56 am reply with quote
Well if it's offset, if the LFO started at zero before (poly & mono modes), it would then start at the offset.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:58 am reply with quote
Just wanted to support this feature request and add a few ideas. Specifically wish for LFO Delay and Phase available for all onboard LFO modules.

Another useful thing in my case is to add options for right-click option of Randomising individual cells of the Arp sequencer grid (Tune, Velocity, Free, etc), versus the entire step column of params and last but not least a right-click copy/paste option for each of Predator's 3 OSC so I can quickly get identical settings to all 3 Operators. Something like this would make sound design often a quicker process because I personally use wave Symmetry between more than one OSC quite often to establish harmonic relationships. Thank you for any possibility. Cheers!

PS - For the randomising addition in the Arp you might be able to (instead of in a menu) place a tiny button to the left edge of the Step Sequencer in front of each row for parameters (Tune, Vel, Free, etc). This button would randomise entry for a particular parameter's step for currently selected (Alt+Click) seq column. I think of a tiny button like the size of the FX slot numbers (which can click to bypass a single FX slot). Just an idea.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:55 pm reply with quote
iHartBeats wrote:
Hi,
I recently bought Predator and I love it.

One request for an upcoming point release:
Would it be possible to make the start point of the waveform used for the Filter LFO, user adjustable?

It's a small thing, but a handy one.


Hi,

We have inside modulation matrix 'offset' as modulation source.
If we ad the LFO startpoint as modulation target, this should be possible.
Will discuss this with Jon, since this we can add in an update.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:00 am reply with quote
snigelx wrote:
Just wanted to support this feature request and add a few ideas. Specifically wish for LFO Delay and Phase available for all onboard LFO modules.

Another useful thing in my case is to add options for right-click option of Randomising individual cells of the Arp sequencer grid (Tune, Velocity, Free, etc), versus the entire step column of params and last but not least a right-click copy/paste option for each of Predator's 3 OSC so I can quickly get identical settings to all 3 Operators. Something like this would make sound design often a quicker process because I personally use wave Symmetry between more than one OSC quite often to establish harmonic relationships. Thank you for any possibility. Cheers!

PS - For the randomising addition in the Arp you might be able to (instead of in a menu) place a tiny button to the left edge of the Step Sequencer in front of each row for parameters (Tune, Vel, Free, etc). This button would randomise entry for a particular parameter's step for currently selected (Alt+Click) seq column. I think of a tiny button like the size of the FX slot numbers (which can click to bypass a single FX slot). Just an idea.


LFO delay and phase are good point. Although we have limited space inside our modules/parts. See my other post about the startphase of the LFO and a solution we could offer.

Other ideas are also very interesting. We put them to the list of ideas for future updates Smile Thanks for the input!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:39 am reply with quote
Rob Papen wrote:
LFO delay and phase are good point. Although we have limited space inside our modules/parts. See my other post about the startphase of the LFO and a solution we could offer. Other ideas are also very interesting. We put them to the list of ideas for future updates Smile Thanks for the input!


About limited space in the LFO modules: Delay could be a modulation Source in the right-click menu because the Delay time could be set perhaps by modulating the "Delay" modulation target Amount. Maybe it is only then about adding the programming for a delayed signal and no worries about an extra knob for it? It -could- be nice however to have an actual knob for LFO phase (Perhaps you could put this in the big space of the OSC 1 module? Wink just a joke! Yes we are VERY limited for graphic space indeed however there might be a smart way to adjust phase in the menu as well? Perhaps offer a few menu options like 90 degree, 180, 360 or maybe some between. Best option is with an adjustable knob of course. Anyway, some things to consider!

Cheers!

Oops, I just saw you posted two times about this earlier. The first time you mentioned that you may have to add Mod target "startpoint" which could be modulated by Offset. Yes, sounds like that would work if you add the target.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:19 pm reply with quote
With regards to LFO Waveform phase I am aware that some synthesizers offer a simple Phase Invert switch/button which simply inverts the selected waveform. That is another idea, esp. considering limited space in the LFO modules. A tiny Invert switch might be the *simplest* answer for wave start phase? And LFO Delay could be, as prev discussed, a Mod Target which could be adjusted by using Offset as source. No need for extra knobs in that case. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:08 am reply with quote
snigelx wrote:
With regards to LFO Waveform phase I am aware that some synthesizers offer a simple Phase Invert switch/button which simply inverts the selected waveform. That is another idea, esp. considering limited space in the LFO modules. A tiny Invert switch might be the *simplest* answer for wave start phase? And LFO Delay could be, as prev discussed, a Mod Target which could be adjusted by using Offset as source. No need for extra knobs in that case. Smile


Hi Snigelx,

With negative modulation, you do invert the phase of the LFO waveform.
So that is possible already, except for the 'pitch modulation LFO'.

Start phase control can be handy with an LFO. This we can arrange inside the modulation matrix, since it is not that often used.

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