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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:02 am reply with quote
I mean, the individual extensions aren't that expensive.. But they're also quite simple and limited for the price. If you buy several, it quickly adds up to a lot of money.

E.g. there's an extremely limited (judging by the GUI) "analog bass synth" for €50. Not a lot of money, but you can buy the U-He Ace or any number of other, far more flexible synths for €70 - €100. Even some of the more expensive (€200 - €300 range) "monster-synths" give you a lot of value for your money since they're so flexible and versatile.

Same with effects - Buffer Override is €40, a Ring Modulator is €65 etc. There are some great VST effect bundles that give you everything you need for not much more - there are even some good freeware ones.

Definitely a bit of mark-up and exploitation of brand recognition here. I hope in the future they offer bundles (based on a category of extensions or a certain developer). Otherwise I'll stick fully with VST's.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:10 am reply with quote
Ingredients :-

Hungry captive audience
Less straightforward development (I'm guessing here)
Complicated compliance (Educated guessing)
Smaller market overall than the VST/AU market

Result :-

Higher prices
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:12 am reply with quote
The back panels aren't too wild chap?
There is the Prop's cost in there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:13 am reply with quote
And you have to remember that Propellerheads get 30% of the money.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:49 am reply with quote
price * amount of customers = income

Who's the target group? Are they many or few, wealthy or poor?
With current prices i can tell that im not a part of that group.
Maybe when/if Valhalla and SK Note releases RE plugs at their current prices (or less, please crossgrade..) And then there's the synths.. err.. where are they? Smile
I guess it will take a month before there will be any purchases as you get a 30 day demo. Then we will see how their equation will go. Looking forward to it Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:24 am reply with quote
JimmiG wrote:

E.g. there's an extremely limited (judging by the GUI) "analog bass synth" for €50. Not a lot of money, but you can buy the U-He Ace or any number of other, far more flexible synths for €70 - €100.


If its ABL you mean, the VST one costs a lot more than the RE one. (the VST can DO more, but in this case the comparative pricing seems okay.)
You could argue ABL costs too much compared to other 'more versatile' synths but its a 303, and what it does it does VERY well. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:24 am reply with quote
I really hate a new standard:
prices higher than normal and smaller markets
no reselling allowed

I hope that they will require a dongle so the fail will be complete.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:44 am reply with quote
They require dongle.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:51 am reply with quote
Ouch. They were my fav devs during Rebirth times.
It looks to me that they are copying Apple's app-store business model.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:52 am reply with quote
The current (quite basic) line up of Rack Extensions when combined cost more than the NI Konplete Ultimate, and don't include any physical product, can't be resold, can only be installed directly from the props website, need a dongle...

Go figure Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:12 am reply with quote
People have been crying out for Propellerheads to include VST support for years, and they finally throw them some breadcrumbs and completely limit the functionality of it, and charge the earth.

Pretty much sums them up imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:22 am reply with quote
Well, let's see what happens when REs come out that use the patching options of Reason Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:25 am reply with quote
Urs wrote:
Well, let's see what happens when REs come out that use the patching options of Reason Wink
Isn't already there? I'm confused. You mean outside the reason kingdom?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:57 am reply with quote
He means Control Voltage patching....Not enough to make me want Reason. Shrug
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:06 am reply with quote
Im selling my reason 3 to reason 6.5 upgrade because of this, having to connect to internet just to download, and the latency problems sort of did it. Im a bit stuck on what to sell for, any ideas on the going rates these days??
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