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ttoz wrote: FrankT wrote: Seriously, who actually cares?
u mean about the admin thing or sampletank itself? Sorry, ST3. Has been announced since...hm...3 years? |
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FrankT wrote: ttoz wrote: FrankT wrote: Seriously, who actually cares?
u mean about the admin thing or sampletank itself? Sorry, ST3. Has been announced since...hm...3 years? Yeah, but but........the pictures............ |
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Sampletank has been outpaced by other products. NI has Kontakt which frankly is the 300 lb. gorilla in the room when it comes to samplers. And others like Omnisphere and Mach Five are WAY out ahead in terms of tech and third party library support.
I suspect IK has been unable to keep up with the other sampler offerings out there and have fallen into a quagmire of "catch-up" which basically leaves them constantly behind in the development of ST3. Surely one of the several internet personalities with IK in their name will show up to tell me how wrong I am. But I remain unconvinced after 3 years of them repeating "as soon as we have more info we'll let you know! In the meantime check out our latest iDevice". This is what happens when your R&D and development team for a product takes a 10 year hiatus from consistent upgrades in favor of "iEverythingINeverWanted". IK can consider me a lost customer. ST3 won't be able to do anything that at least three other samplers can do better. |
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a few screenshots would be nice,3 years is along time to wait,ik ? |
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hibidy wrote: FrankT wrote: ttoz wrote: FrankT wrote: Seriously, who actually cares?
u mean about the admin thing or sampletank itself? Sorry, ST3. Has been announced since...hm...3 years? Yeah, but but........the pictures............ You mean this fancy Facebook imagery of 'the instruments' worked on by 'the dev" for 'the soon to come Super-Rompler' ? Yes, that was cool. Hm. Not. I think the ongoing ST3 saga has been the perfect excuse for IKM to do nothing on the existing rompler products. Period. |
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Much as I liked ST2 [and 1 before it] I have to admit I'm not in the market for another sampler. Kontakt does it all for me and, like the iPhone or iPad, has become so dominant that its success drives new content and new content drives its success. A vicious circle [for everyone but Native Instruments, pretty much].
ST3 may well be awesome, but unless it truly delivers something new to the marketplace then it's going to work hard to break even. ---- 11, 418th in line to the KVR throne |
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I don't consider anything that is still being sold by the developer to be discontinued, but I do consider it terribly supported. I personally could care less about ST3, I want ST2 that I own now to be fixed. It looks like the best hope then is that there will actually be a ST3 free player that can play legacy libraries and combis. We'll see.
Personally I'd love to see the Custom Shop model come to ST3 where you could buy individual sounds and make combis with them, like an ala carte banquet. It would have a good contrast to other sample players like that IMO and have relevance in the market next to Kontact. |
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SampleTank 3 is being worked on.
We aren't going to be updating SampleTank 2 in the meantime, especially when we are in the middle of working on SampleTank 3. It will be able to read legacy SampleTank libraries and we will be bringing an entirely new library with new features that will set it apart from what is currently available. Believe it or not. Watch it happen. SampleTank 3 2013 |
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ObiK wrote: SampleTank 3 is being worked on.
We aren't going to be updating SampleTank 2 in the meantime, especially when we are in the middle of working on SampleTank 3. It will be able to read legacy SampleTank libraries and we will be bringing an entirely new library with new features that will set it apart from what is currently available. Believe it or not. Watch it happen. SampleTank 3 2013 Take your time to get it right and make it come with a premium sounding library. If you could come up with acoustic guitars sounding as good as the riff at 1min05, it would be the first time with a sampler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUlMx20_Wr8 |
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ObiK wrote: SampleTank 3 is being worked on.
We aren't going to be updating SampleTank 2 in the meantime, especially when we are in the middle of working on SampleTank 3. It will be able to read legacy SampleTank libraries and we will be bringing an entirely new library with new features that will set it apart from what is currently available. Believe it or not. Watch it happen. SampleTank 3 2013 In the meantime, there are plenty of ST groupbuys for 2.5.4 |
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I love IK, but every time a third party company releases an exciting new Kontakt format library I think, "I've got the wrong sampler." I couldn't be happier for IK that they landed on top in the phone/pod/pad accessories & apps world - they deserve it. But if I'm being honest, in my opinion the best feature they could possibly announce for ST3 would be support of Kontakt's formats, features, scripting, and libraries. If that shows a lack of imagination on my part, well, I'll be pleasantly surprised. And there's the rub - what I am really dreaming of is an upgrade path from ST to Kontakt. Sorry to show so little faith, especially since I know more than one of the IK crew participates actively here. Be honest with your bosses about what they're up against and if, heaven forbid, NI manages to update Kontakt *again* before ST3 comes out, tell them they should buy every ST user a Dr. Pepper (<- That's a Chinese Democracy joke in case anyone here has a short memory). ---- If every KVR member wrote one review a year we'd have 678 reviews each day! |
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I already run Sampletank 3 in Tracktion 4. |
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sergevoluminous wrote: I already run Sampletank 3 in Tracktion 4.
It's runs better in bitwig! |
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ObiK wrote: We aren't going to be updating SampleTank 2 in the meantime, especially when we are in the middle of working on SampleTank 3. Yeah, this is pretty much what everyone predicted in this thread. "We are not willing to fix the issues we know about with ST2, but hey, you can buy ST3 when it comes out, and the issues will be fixed." Seriously, I hate to be like this, Mr. Angry-Guy-Over-The-Internet, but that is a super shitty way to handle your business. Sampletank 2 needs fixing, and you guys refuse to do it because you want us to upgrade to ST3 next year? Thanks, but no thanks. Honestly, if you are seriously unwilling to fix ST2, I'm done with IK. Sorry to say, but you guys have plenty of competitors who do as well or better than you at everything you make, so your customer service is the only chance you have at an edge. NI's customer service sucks, but at least they either keep their products updating and bug-fixed, or just straight announce that they are discontinued. Thanks for replying, I guess. At least now I know where you guys stand. Really pitiful customer service, IK. I guess I will go ahead and uninstall/delete Sampletank, and see if anyone wants it in the marketplace... Last edited by sockofgold on Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:35 am; edited 3 times in total |
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Hewitt, I love your sig! |
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