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November Contest: Gossip

Share your music, collaborate, and partake in monthly music contests.

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D.H. Miltz
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8173 posts since 20 Jun, 2008

Postby D.H. Miltz; Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:24 am November Contest: Gossip

Right, then.
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D.H. Miltz
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Postby D.H. Miltz; Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:30 am

farlukar wrote:And re:"no melodies", what's this then?

I didn't forget this, I just haven't had a chance to watch it. I might go somewhere later this morning where streaming is less problematic than it is here at home.
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rsmus7
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4405 posts since 2 Feb, 2003, from lost in music

Postby rsmus7; Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:58 am

just to clarify it a bit,
only percussive sounds are allowed,
but can they be done by synthesizers?
and can any fx be used to modulate them?

so that maybe a resonator can make a melody out of a
percussive beat?
or not in any way melodies?
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D.H. Miltz
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Postby D.H. Miltz; Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:02 am

No melodies, ideally, but you can certainly make percussion with synths if you like, and there are no restrictions on effects.
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IrionDaRonin
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2442 posts since 17 Mar, 2011, from Spain

Postby IrionDaRonin; Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:52 am

rsmus7 wrote:just to clarify it a bit,
only percussive sounds are allowed,
but can they be done by synthesizers?
and can any fx be used to modulate them?

so that maybe a resonator can make a melody out of a
percussive beat?
or not in any way melodies?


Hi! :)
Let's talk about the limits of the challenge.
Well, the idea is to make a track only with percussive sounds. You can use synths, samples, or even your voice again if you want. Whatever.
In my case, i will try to do only Taiko Drums things, if i have time... A war theme in the meiji epoque or maybe something strange, just for fun.

Of course noise and atonal sounds would be allowed in the tracks, that's why i said, "if you punch your guitar", the sound won't sound melodic itself, it won't sound a precious chord, but it will bring harmonic content, atonal or not.

What i'm thinking now, what if we use a long tail reverb? It could sound like a pad, and a pad is not a percussive sound, but the original sound was... In that case the reverb wouldn't be allowed, right?
What do you think guys?

Have a good day :)
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offthewall
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869 posts since 20 Mar, 2005, from Newcastle, UK

Postby offthewall; Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:56 am

Well ...
for only the second time since 2006 I'm out as the theme just is not in my remit. It holds no attraction whatsoever, I'm sorry to say :shrug:
Looking forward to something better for December.

:wink:
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evo2slo
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593 posts since 17 May, 2011, from Philadelphia

Postby evo2slo; Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:28 am

Looking forward this this contest, should be fun. :)

The Rules wrote:No other sounds, no basslines, no melodies, no pads, no textures, no choirs.

I'm really confused by what is meant by "no melodies." As the video from farlukar shows many percussive instruments are tuned or shaped to particular pitches. I think it will be impossible to avoid making melodies.

Also, "no textures." I was thinking of percussively strumming the strings of a muted guitar (perhaps while using a wah wah 8) ). Is that a texture?

I hadn't given much thought to "no pads" but what Irion mentioned about long reverbs having a pad like sound (particularly a pitch shifting reverb like Valhalla Shimmer) is a good point.

I have no idea how the rules could be re-worded to take all of the grey areas between what is pitched and what is unpitched percussion into account, but I think perhaps removing "no melodies," "no textures," and "no pads" from the rules could help avoid confusion. I guess in the end the voters will just have to decide for themselves what is percussive and what isn't.
rp314
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1896 posts since 24 Mar, 2006, from The city by the bay

Postby rp314; Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:28 am

Having returned to this contest after almost three years (man time passes so quickly), besides realizing that this thing tends to draw an interesting bunch no matter how many of us come and go, I see pretty much the same dilemma regarding the theme.

1. Make an interesting piece of music.

2. Follow the month's theme.

3. Try to hit the "sweet spot" which might get the entry enough votes to maybe win the whole thing.

Since voting is usually the most difficult part it tends to be the case that some folks have a special talent for satisfying the requirements yet doing well at #3, and thus the contest tends to have some repeat winners.

It must be said however that some of us just don't seem to enjoy making things easy on ourselves and might regard excessive approbation as something almost as uncomfortable as not getting any votes at all. :hihi:

So it really mostly comes down to the first two considerations. YMMV. :wink:
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vurt
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33595 posts since 25 Jan, 2003, from through the looking glass

Postby vurt; Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:33 am

do what thou will and let the voters decide.
just have fun with the idea.
Vulcandj
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123 posts since 8 Aug, 2011

Postby Vulcandj; Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:18 pm

This may have been addressed at some other time, so forgive me for possibly asking again. How do I put up an image to go along with the music? There always seems to be a lot of images (and I admit that I look forward to seeing what Evo2slo has submitted for artwork). Like I stated....if this has a previous thread, sorry for asking about it again.

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vurt
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33595 posts since 25 Jan, 2003, from through the looking glass

Postby vurt; Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:45 pm

upload the image somewhere, copy and paste the link wuth img tags :)
ClaRago
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290 posts since 1 Dec, 2011

Postby ClaRago; Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:09 pm

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/faq.php?mode=bbcode
Vulcandj, all is explained here.
Vulcandj
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123 posts since 8 Aug, 2011

Postby Vulcandj; Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:59 pm

Thanks for the info. I hope to be able to come up with some artwork for the next piece that I enter. (Not sure if it will be this month, but we'll see).
Just close your eyes. You'll find all you need with your mind.
sp0rk
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63 posts since 18 Jun, 2005

Postby sp0rk; Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:10 pm

I don't understand 'no melodies'.

Percussion includes things like Bells, Xylophones, glasses, chimes, etc. (ie - instruments played by striking).

Couldn't someone do a xylophone piece and submit it?
D.H. Miltz
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Postby D.H. Miltz; Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:49 pm

As regards melodies/no melodies: No one's claiming melodies can't in general be made with percussion or that tuned percussion doesn't exist. The idea is to eschew them. That's part of the challenge, part of the point.

vurt wrote:do what thou will and let the voters decide.
just have fun with the idea.
This is my general answer, too.

evo2slo wrote:Also, "no textures." I was thinking of percussively strumming the strings of a muted guitar (perhaps while using a wah wah Cool ). Is that a texture?
The wah wah might be problematic; hard to say. See vurt's quote.

As for long tails on reverbs--if they're making a pad sound, and the challenge/theme specifically says "no pads," couldn't you just use shorter tails?
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