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Setting up a drum (TX16Wx)
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G-Sun
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:05 am reply with quote
Hi!

I'm testing out TX16Wx.
What's the easiest way to import drum-samples for a drum-set instrument?
I tried drag n'drop 12samples of different velocities for kick but they didn't line up right.

Tried shift, but that didn't do it.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:12 am reply with quote
Hi G-Sun,

Sorry, right now you are out of luck as you have to map these files manually. I already asked for something similar in this thread: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=365267

Let's hope this gets addressed soon Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:20 am reply with quote
Ok,
then testing is over for me Smile

Thanks for the quick response!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:22 am reply with quote
You shouldn't give up so fast.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:55 am reply with quote
EvilDragon wrote:
You shouldn't give up so fast.

Hi ED Smile
Well, setting up a drum-instrument was the task needed,
and doing all sample-velocities manually is just to time-consuming.
(and Shortcircuit does this quite well)

So, maybe another time for another purpose..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:08 pm reply with quote
Just keep it on your hard drive and watch out for any updates. It's not exactly a huge download, so it can't be a bother Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:57 pm reply with quote
I will Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:39 am reply with quote
Ok, I've read this, and EDs kontakt-screens too. Seems I'll have fix a velocity layer drop feature pretty soon. I'll try to have something by the weekend or so.
Cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:16 am reply with quote
elcallio wrote:
Ok, I've read this, and EDs kontakt-screens too. Seems I'll have fix a velocity layer drop feature pretty soon. I'll try to have something by the weekend or so.
Cheers
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Awesome :thumbsup:

I think using a modifier key (Shift) on drag n'drop would be perfect.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:14 am reply with quote
Shift is spoken for (setting range), but ctrl is still free. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:24 am reply with quote
elcallio wrote:
Shift is spoken for (setting range), but ctrl is still free. Cool


you could try independance free or UVI soundstation in the meantime
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 10:34 am reply with quote
Can't see why should this need a modifier, really. Kontakt's method is really the bee's knees. Really usable.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:50 am reply with quote
elcallio wrote:
Shift is spoken for (setting range), but ctrl is still free. Cool

Sorry, ctrl it is Smile

EvilDragon wrote:
Can't see why should this need a modifier, really. Kontakt's method is really the bee's knees. Really usable.

And how is Kontaks method.
For the record: I trust ED in this Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:42 am reply with quote
EvilDragon wrote:
Can't see why should this need a modifier, really. Kontakt's method is really the bee's knees. Really usable.


Because kontakt does not have splits. To expand: since each group can have multiple samples mapped to it, and d&d lets you drop new samples into new splits in an existing group, dropping stuff in the keyboard region is "reserved" for "absolutely create new group even if we're overlapping".

To recapitulate:


  1. Drop sample(s) with root in empty region in key mapper -> new group with samples laid out from drop point to min(keyboard max, highest root + <spacing (5)>)
  2. Drop sample(s) without root in empty region -> new group with samples at fixed intervals (setting:1) starting at drop point
  3. Drop sample(s) holding ALT -> same as 2.)
  4. Drop sample(s) in/over existing group -> samples mapped in new splits starting at max(drop point, split key + 1) to end of the split using same rules as 1 & 2
  5. Drop sample(s) in keyboard region -> force create new group (by 1, 2 or 3 rules) even if overlapping group exists
  6. Use shift key to set high region (first move to low key, then press shift and move to high key
  7. (New) Drop samples with CTRL held -> maps samples as velocity layers in the order of files dropped. (Setting:) If the samples have varying root keys, the algorithm will search for matching roots create groups partitioned round these points, i.e you can drop x samples that are in both velocity and key range and the algo will lay them out as velocity layered multi samples.
    (In all cases here it is de facto file names that determine layout order, which i cannot say I approve of, but I doubt trusting in instrument chunks (rare!) is preferable).
    Note that ALT key and/or setting can turn of the two-dimensional behaviour, thus force just velocity layer mapping (ALT basically means ignore root key)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:36 am reply with quote
elcallio wrote:

[*](New) Drop samples with CTRL held -> maps samples as velocity layers in the order of files dropped.

When I do this, dropping several selected samples from the file browser, the velocity layers are always arranged the same way regardless of how I select the files in the browser ie. makes no difference if I select the loudest then shift+click the softest or vice versa.

Is this a bug or have I misunderstood your post?
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