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Console emulation plugins = necessary?
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@midnight
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:57 pm reply with quote
Feeling a little insecure over here with my lack of proper console emu Wink

What say you? Are these things necessary to get great sounding mixes ITB?

What difference have they made for you?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:03 pm reply with quote
they make my mixes sound more analog HiHi

actually i dont really know i've never actually properly used my Waves NLS on a mix. I should try that and get back to you.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:12 pm reply with quote
Necessary? No...

Make a nice difference where its suitable? yes...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:22 pm reply with quote
V0RT3X wrote:
they make my mixes sound more analog HiHi


I like my mixes to stay in digital Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:25 pm reply with quote
I have Satson, RC-Tube and Stripbus. I use them 90% of the time and i like what they do.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:39 pm reply with quote
wrong thread
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:48 pm reply with quote
@midnight wrote:
wrong thread

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:31 pm reply with quote
In my understanding and terribly simplified, console emus do really four things: Compression, Saturation, Cross-talk and adding noise. With many console emus, all these components are interlinked and influence each other.

Many single VST compressors have some kind of inbuilt saturation anyway when pushed hard. For example, the Waves API compressors do saturate (when driving hard) and also add optional noise. Adding console emus and driving them hard is then like doubling up, which might be a good or bad thing, depending on the music style. IMO, I think the key of using console emus in general is to be as subtle as possible, especially if there's already other compressors/saturators in the effect chain.

Cross-talk is something I can completely live without and find nothing nice about it, again just my 2c.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:09 pm reply with quote
Of course they're not necessary... But they are a nice option Wink
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@midnight
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:54 pm reply with quote
scalawag wrote:
@midnight wrote:
wrong thread

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lol i mean i posted in the wrong thread

i think i did that wrong
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:55 pm reply with quote
I've decided to sell my copy of NLS for $104 canadian if your interested Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:56 pm reply with quote
no way
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:00 pm reply with quote
@midnight wrote:
no way


Not you, i was talking to any other people who are interested. HiHi
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:15 pm reply with quote
They are just another way of purportedly "analog-izing" things. You could ask the same about a tape emu or a tube preamp emu. The difference that's starting to emerge with things like the Waves NLS one is that they literally model many different channels, not just one (like in their Helios HLS plug-in) and they claim the subtle interactive differences, if you put a unique channel on each of your tracks then sum them, makes it pick up more of that analog console mojo.

What exactly is that analog console mojo you might ask? I don't know really, but many people with the money think it's worth paying a lot for, even today when it's not in any way practically necessary.
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@midnight
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:59 pm reply with quote
what about zero-crosstalk digital summing mojo?

eh? Smile
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