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I want a workhorse synthesizer like Korg Triton

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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KVRer
 
25 posts since 5 Dec, 2012, from Finland

Postby Triskal; Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:14 pm I want a workhorse synthesizer like Korg Triton

I've always been a huge fan of Korg hardware synthesizers like Triton and Trinity and I thought Korg might already have ported them over into VSTi's, but apparently not. I've tried out some synths along the way like everything in NI:s Komplete, but there's not enough usable stuff there. It's like 10000 sounds with 10 usable ones. I dont't like tweaking, I want a usable good library with no nonsense.

Now, there are sample libraries, like these on eBay, for Kontakt and Reason, but 1) I'm concerned about how legal they are and 2) I only get samples, not the real synthesizing process.

This brings me to synths like Alchemy and Omnisphere. Listening to Youtube demos and demos on their website, they feel like they could be what I want. The free lite version of Alchemy for instance is pretty close. But the problem with both is the huge sample library. No version of Korg Triton has a capacity to host a 12 - 40 gigs worth of samples, I don't believe that.

This all leaves me wondering. Does what I want and need exist? How do I find what I'm looking for? I don't undestand terms such as FM, granular, analog, etc, since they have no reference to me. I'm not a keyboardist, I'm rather a musician/drummer/bedroom-studio-producer who likes good synth sounds.
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Postby re_mute; Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:28 pm

Triskal wrote: I dont't like tweaking, I want a usable good library with no nonsense.

This brings me to synths like Alchemy and Omnisphere. Listening to Youtube demos and demos on their website, they feel like they could be what I want. The free lite version of Alchemy for instance is pretty close. But the problem with both is the huge sample library.


If you want usable and ease of use, go for Alchemy over Omni - the one page GUI and selectable soundlibraries make it more of an all-rounder, IMO.
If you insist on usable but under a bizarre gigbyte limit...well, good luck.
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KVRAF
 
7825 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany
  

Postby Ingonator; Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:07 am

If he likes Korg so why not try the M1 and the Wavestation plugin plugin first...
Both are delivered with tons of factory sounds and the M1 includeds all available expansion cards.
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KVRer
 
25 posts since 5 Dec, 2012, from Finland

Postby Triskal; Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:51 am

re_mute wrote:If you insist on usable but under a bizarre gigbyte limit...well, good luck.


It's not that I insist on it. I just find it odd that there is no such thing as a VST synth that does what the Korg hardware workstations do without a huge sample library.

Ingonator wrote:If he likes Korg so why not try the M1 and the Wavestation plugin plugin first...


I came to think of it just after I posted my original post. I found some youtube demos and it all sounds very promising. Especially if I buy a microKEYS 61 from Thomann I get the plugins bundled with it for less than if I buy them separately from the webshop Korg links to. They are just M1 and Wavestation, though. Triton would be teh win.
KVRian
 
1339 posts since 19 Jun, 2011, from Sendai, Japan

Postby Doug1978; Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:23 am

Hi Triskal

To be honest, it sounds like you already have some excellent choices there, as recommended by the other KVR members.

I'd also suggest having a look at Zebra by u-he, as it is a very versatile synth with excellent presets and a great sound.

http://www.u-he.com/cms/zebra

(Also it's u-he sister DIVA is arguably the best 'analogue hardware sounding' softsynth on the market currently).

Cheers :)
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KVRAF
 
2685 posts since 16 Mar, 2003, from Porto - Portugal

Postby fmr; Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:38 am

The thing that, IMO, comes closer to Trident and Triton in concept and usability sounds (from THAT point of view) should be HALion Sonic, by Steinberg.
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KVRian
 
650 posts since 27 Dec, 2011, from Seattle,WA, USA
    

Postby KevWestBeats; Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:26 am

I used to have a Trinity rack the closest thing I have ever heard to it in software is Purity. Check it out you might really like it.
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Postby Gosh; Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:28 am

+1 for HALion Sonic or HALion 4. these are the closest things to a ROMpler like the ones from Yamaha, Roland or KORG. however, then you still have to deal with a library of around 15 gb. in fact the development of HALion Sonic included developers which were also responsible for the Yamaha Motif series. oh, and both HALion Sonic and HALion 4 include a very capable and good soundung VA engine.
KVRer
 
25 posts since 5 Dec, 2012, from Finland

Postby Triskal; Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:59 am

Gosh wrote:these are the closest things to a ROMpler like the ones from Yamaha, Roland or KORG.


Thank you for teaching me a new word. I didn't know it was a rompler I'm looking for.

EDIT: U-he has Zebralette. I'll give it a try. Also found Proteus VX. I'll try that too.

EDIT2: Halion Sonic sounds more inspiring that Halion, quite surprisingly.

Thank you for recommendation, everybody. They are all highly appreciated.
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Postby whyterabbyt; Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:30 am

Triskal wrote:But the problem with both is the huge sample library. No version of Korg Triton has a capacity to host a 12 - 40 gigs worth of samples, I don't believe that.


Yes, but workstations have smaller libraries because the storage media they rely on is expensive. Hard drive space space is much cheaper. So why does it make a difference to you? 40Gb isn't even a quarter of the space of the smallest mechanical hard drives you can actually find any more. It'd fit on a $100 SSD, with spare space.
Yes, workstations did a lot with smaller sample sets. I have no idea why people think that means larger sample sets are an inherent issue to be avoided.
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KVRist
 
188 posts since 11 Mar, 2002, from Edinburgh, UK

Postby Resonance; Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:53 am

I was actually considering selling my fully loaded Korg Triton ProX 88-key (MOSS Board, maxed-out RAM etc.) because I'm in the market for a portable digital piano (the Triton is a heavy beast) - currently located in the UK.

Send me a PM me if you're interested.

However, the above mentioned VSTi will do the trick as well.
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Postby Karmacomposer; Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:29 am

As a long-time Korg fan (hence my name - Korg Karma), I love workstation romplers.

The one you need to look at is Wusikstation. It IS a rompler in the vein of the Korg Wavestation and above romplers.

It has a nice library and plenty of 3rd party support.

If you want a well-rounded workstation that uses the Wusik engine, take a look at PRIZM (www.supersynths.com) - it has a large library of sounds and can be used much like a Korg Triton, Karma, etc.

Mike
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KVRAF
 
7536 posts since 20 Jan, 2008, from Down on the farm

Postby Numanoid; Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:12 am

Karmacomposer wrote:The one you need to look at is Wusikstation. It IS a rompler in the vein of the Korg Wavestation and above romplers.


+1 for WusikStation

But I'm thinking, why not get yourself a Korg Krome, which cost no more than 1000 bucks from Sweetwater now

$1000 may sound much, but it is self contained workstation, so you don't really need a computer to use it.

If you want to get Komplete or Omnisphere, you need to also have a decent PC to run the plugs plus a midi keyboard interface, which in the end will cost just a much put together if not more.
KVRist
 
248 posts since 19 Feb, 2011

Postby ScottZ; Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:37 am

yeah +1 for wusikstation just got V6 not too long ago for a really good deal still going on and really like the HGF free sounds makes me wanna get the full set, but i've spent too much already black friday.
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