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PsyGen, PsyBox and Ambitron from M-RGT?

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KVRian
 
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Postby bharris22; Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:07 am PsyGen, PsyBox and Ambitron from M-RGT?

Does anyone have experience with these (good or bad)? I need another synth like a hole in the head, but was wondering if I should pull the trigger on one or more of these during the company's sale, which ends today. I bought Padshop Pro recently, and wonder if there is anything that these do that PSP would not. Thanks!
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KVRAF
 
7559 posts since 20 Jan, 2008, from Down on the farm

Postby Numanoid; Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:16 am

I got PsyBox before the sale, and even then I felt very lucky.

If you like drones, it's a complete No-Brainer deal IMO.

Maybe more than a musical tool, it is something I like just leaving on and listening to, let the sound fill the room slowly, with all it's subtle changes.

Why should I ever bother buying a Steve Roach album again, now that I got PsyBox? :love:
KVRian
 
991 posts since 14 May, 2008, from Tralfamadore

Postby Bobbotov; Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:24 am

bharris22 wrote:Does anyone have experience with these (good or bad)? I need another synth like a hole in the head, but was wondering if I should pull the trigger on one or more of these during the company's sale, which ends today. I bought Padshop Pro recently, and wonder if there is anything that these do that PSP would not. Thanks!


psyBOX, Ambitron and psyGEN are very different than PadShop Pro. Download the demos to try them out. psyGEN has a 16 channel sequencer and I believe PadShop Pro is only 2 channels. You can load your own samples with all three synths. Ambitron has a "pilotless" mode where you can set it randomly play all patches and wav files continuously in a streaming manner. I think psyGEN and Ambitron might have a more extensive Modulation Matrix than PSP. The granular engine in all three might also differ from PSP.
KVRist
 
248 posts since 19 Feb, 2011

Postby ScottZ; Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:52 am

so theoretically there's nothing you can't do with psygen that you can't with PSP although the granular engine might be different so it might sound a bit different?
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KVRAF
 
7559 posts since 20 Jan, 2008, from Down on the farm

Postby Numanoid; Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:56 am

I think M-RGT plugs are lighter on the CPU than Padshop Pro.

I was tempted to buy Padshop Pro, but when I tried out the demo, it quickly turned into a glitch fest on my setup...
KVRian
 
991 posts since 14 May, 2008, from Tralfamadore

Postby Bobbotov; Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:57 am

ScottZ wrote:so theoretically there's nothing you can't do with psygen that you can't with PSP although the granular engine might be different so it might sound a bit different?


I haven't done an extensive side-by-side comparison with PSP and I might be biased but I think our granulizer has a slight edge over PSP. Now, there are some nice features of PSP for sure but for the difference in price I think we might be a bigger bang for he buck. :)
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Postby Karmacomposer; Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:00 am

I can safely tell you that you cannot go wrong with all three of RGT's synths.

They are well programmed, sound great and do very amazing things. IMO, all three are great additions to Padshop Pro.

I bought Padshop Pro a bit ago and it is amazing, but RGT's synths are easier to work with. Some of them are literally automatic.

I own psyBOX and psyGEN and both are AMAZING!

I have yet to buy Ambitron - not sure if I need it.

Mike
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KVRAF
 
20153 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:03 am

For the money they're all a great buy.

psyBOX is great at generating textures, and psyGEN is so versatile. Haven't used Ambitron but I'm sure it's as good as the other two.
KVRist
 
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Postby ScottZ; Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:35 am

Numanoid wrote:I got PsyBox before the sale, and even then I felt very lucky.

If you like drones, it's a complete No-Brainer deal IMO.

Maybe more than a musical tool, it is something I like just leaving on and listening to, let the sound fill the room slowly, with all it's subtle changes.

Why should I ever bother buying a Steve Roach album again, now that I got PsyBox? :love:


so does psybox have an autopilot thing like ambitron then?
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KVRAF
 
7559 posts since 20 Jan, 2008, from Down on the farm

Postby Numanoid; Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:38 am

Yes, you press play, and the drone commences

In the download you get two versions of the plug, one prepacked, and one you can use to load your own samples.
KVRian
 
991 posts since 14 May, 2008, from Tralfamadore

Postby Bobbotov; Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:49 am

ScottZ wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I got PsyBox before the sale, and even then I felt very lucky.

If you like drones, it's a complete No-Brainer deal IMO.

Maybe more than a musical tool, it is something I like just leaving on and listening to, let the sound fill the room slowly, with all it's subtle changes.

Why should I ever bother buying a Steve Roach album again, now that I got PsyBox? :love:


so does psybox have an autopilot thing like ambitron then?


No morphing between patches like psyGEN. However, the nature of the granulizer is such that as the sound progresses it slowly changes its timbre depending on how you set the parameters. So, theoretically it will never play the same patch exactly the same. But it will not morph to a new patch/sample like Ambitron does.
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KVRAF
 
7559 posts since 20 Jan, 2008, from Down on the farm

Postby Numanoid; Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:14 am

I haven't used X-Wheel of fortune much, but I think that plug has more in common with PsyGen than Padshop Pro, or am I wrong?
KVRian
 
991 posts since 14 May, 2008, from Tralfamadore

Postby Bobbotov; Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:26 am

Numanoid wrote:I haven't used X-Wheel of fortune much, but I think that plug has more in common with PsyGen than Padshop Pro, or am I wrong?


Not sure if X-Wheel is still available but HGF has DreamMachine which does continuous morphing like Ambitron.
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KVRAF
 
20153 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:33 am

Numanoid wrote:I haven't used X-Wheel of fortune much, but I think that plug has more in common with PsyGen than Padshop Pro, or am I wrong?

No, X-Wheel of Fortune doesn't have anywhere near the same morphing ability and I don't know if it's actually granular - I think it's just a few sequencers working in parallel (might be wrong).
KVRian
 
991 posts since 14 May, 2008, from Tralfamadore

Postby Bobbotov; Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:43 am

robojam wrote:
Numanoid wrote:I haven't used X-Wheel of fortune much, but I think that plug has more in common with PsyGen than Padshop Pro, or am I wrong?

No, X-Wheel of Fortune doesn't have anywhere near the same morphing ability and I don't know if it's actually granular - I think it's just a few sequencers working in parallel (might be wrong).


No, it is not granular. It just cycles through patches/waveforms. I believe it also uses SoundFonts which we don't.
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