Spectrasonics Sampling Policy
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 353 posts since 20 Nov, 2005
Spectrasonics has a policy that you can't sample their virtual instruments, to use in your own commercial sample libraries or virtual instruments.
This is a policy that is very uncommon and one that I personally disagree with.
I know they put in many thousands if not millions of hours to create the sounds in their products, as well the product engines themselves. However, if I made a virtual instrument, I would be honored if people even wanted to sample it to create commercial sample libraries and new virtual instruments.
All three spectrasonics products are such vast instruments with unimaginable possibilities, and the guys at spectrasonics are such nice guys. I don't understand their feelings about preventing people to create new and exciting products, utilizing their products to do so.
This is a policy that is very uncommon and one that I personally disagree with.
I know they put in many thousands if not millions of hours to create the sounds in their products, as well the product engines themselves. However, if I made a virtual instrument, I would be honored if people even wanted to sample it to create commercial sample libraries and new virtual instruments.
All three spectrasonics products are such vast instruments with unimaginable possibilities, and the guys at spectrasonics are such nice guys. I don't understand their feelings about preventing people to create new and exciting products, utilizing their products to do so.
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- KVRist
- 464 posts since 4 Nov, 2011 from Tleat
okdaExpert wrote:Spectrasonics has a policy that you can't sample their virtual instruments, to use in your own commercial sample libraries or virtual instruments.
This is a policy that is very uncommon and one that I personally disagree with.
I know they put in many thousands if not millions of hours to create the sounds in their products, as well the product engines themselves. However, if I made a virtual instrument, I would be honored if people even wanted to sample it to create commercial sample libraries and new virtual instruments.
All three spectrasonics products are such vast instruments with unimaginable possibilities, and the guys at spectrasonics are such nice guys. I don't understand their feelings about preventing people to create new and exciting products, utilizing their products to do so.
- KVRAF
- 8181 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
Spend the next several years and bags of money doing so and see if you still feel the same.daExpert wrote:I would be honored if people even wanted to sample it to create commercial sample libraries and new virtual instruments.
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- KVRAF
- 16153 posts since 2 Dec, 2003 from Nashville, TN
So you think it should be ok to take samples that somebody recorded over the period of many years, with thousands of hours of tweaking and editing and shaping, with top equipment they purchased for the project, and instruments they had to spend time and money acquiring.............and record it and sell it for profit?
They don't allow it because their instruments are mostly sample-based. It takes a lot of work to record and edit this stuff. You shouldn't be able to just record it, throw some effects on it, and then sell it as your own. What would stop somebody from just sampling all the presets, then selling it for a tenth of the price, and then Spectrasonics loses business because somebody was too lazy to do the grunt work themselves?
Now that wouldn't be fair, would it?
Brent
They don't allow it because their instruments are mostly sample-based. It takes a lot of work to record and edit this stuff. You shouldn't be able to just record it, throw some effects on it, and then sell it as your own. What would stop somebody from just sampling all the presets, then selling it for a tenth of the price, and then Spectrasonics loses business because somebody was too lazy to do the grunt work themselves?
Now that wouldn't be fair, would it?
Brent
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- KVRAF
- 4218 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Sounds totally normal and legit to me. You're buying an instrument, not a sample library to make money out of it.daExpert wrote:Spectrasonics has a policy that you can't sample their virtual instruments, to use in your own commercial sample libraries or virtual instruments.
- KVRist
- 476 posts since 30 May, 2002 from Scotland
no it isn't - its entirely normal for sample based instruments.daExpert wrote: This is a policy that is very uncommon....
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- KVRAF
- 5805 posts since 8 May, 2008 from ssssskipping ......... I left you there
Wrong, 'daExpert'. It's very common, I'd say universal, among sample based instruments, like all Spectrasonics products are.daExpert wrote:This is a policy that is very uncommon
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 14 May, 2008 from Tralfamadore
Uncommon? Really? Name another company that allows you to re-purpose their copyrighted samples for sale without permission and/or license to do so.daExpert wrote:
This is a policy that is very uncommon and one that I personally disagree with.
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- KVRAF
- 8414 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
Well their instrument is sample based meaning they put the work into creating the sounds you use to make other sounds. It's completely up to them in terms of how they licence that usage.
I don't think its unfair.
I don't think its unfair.
- KVRAF
- 9216 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
Indeed it is.biomechanoid wrote:no it isn't - its entirely normal for sample based instruments.daExpert wrote: This is a policy that is very uncommon....
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 353 posts since 20 Nov, 2005
Yes, I do.koolkeys wrote:So you think it should be ok to take samples that somebody recorded over the period of many years, with thousands of hours of tweaking and editing and shaping, with top equipment they purchased for the project, and instruments they had to spend time and money acquiring.............and record it and sell it for profit?
Brent
They, themselves, used countless synths, romplers, and effects to create their own instruments. Did they get permission from these people to use their products? Yes, they did. So why are they denying permission to other people to use their products to create new and exciting products? I don't know.
Yes, somebody could do that, but it wouldn't cost spectrasonics any business. It would just make spectrasonics more popular.koolkeys wrote:What would stop somebody from just sampling all the presets, then selling it for a tenth of the price, and then Spectrasonics loses business because somebody was too lazy to do the grunt work themselves?
New and exciting commercial or non-commercial instruments based on the sound-generating potential of spectrasonics software wouldn't hurt spectrasonics.
It's not like anyone is trying to compete with spectrasonics or replace them, just adding to what already exists. The more the merrier.
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- KVRAF
- 16138 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 353 posts since 20 Nov, 2005
If that's what you think, that's your problem. I didn't make the post in anger or whatever negative emotion your assuming I did.Sampleconstruct wrote:OP = wrong attitude...
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- KVRAF
- 16138 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
You didn't sound angry, I just think that your opinion about this topic is wrong, that's all.daExpert wrote:If that's what you think, that's your problem. I didn't make the post in anger or whatever negative emotion your assuming I did.Sampleconstruct wrote:OP = wrong attitude...