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D.H. Miltz
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:07 am reply with quote
Gossip, gripes, queries, quarrels--here's where they go.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:16 am reply with quote
Yay no more 192kbps limit!

Question about the compositions must be composed specifically for this contest rule:
I was thinking of using a track I recorded recently for the one synth challenge but reworking it and adding lyrics and other instrumentation for submission to this contest. I feel like it meets the composition rule in that the lyrics and arrangement will be written specifically for this contest, but parts of it such as the chord progression and synth parts have already been written.
Any thoughts on wether this would be an appropriate submission, or would it be disqualified?
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I'm not 100% clear on rule #6. If I used hardware to produce some tracks, does doing a mixdown in a software multitrack satisfy the rule? How about producing samples with VSTis, then using a hardware sampler? I'd rather satisfy it in spirit than just technically so if anyone can explain the rationale that might help.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:59 pm reply with quote
dark.nowhere wrote:
I'm not 100% clear on rule #6. If I used hardware to produce some tracks, does doing a mixdown in a software multitrack satisfy the rule? How about producing samples with VSTis, then using a hardware sampler? I'd rather satisfy it in spirit than just technically so if anyone can explain the rationale that might help.
My sense is that the rule is there to avoid someone just submitting a straight recording without doing any processing or mixing of the track. Hardware and outboard gear are totally fine to use as long as a certain amount of mixing and processing is done in a computer so it remains relevant to what KVR is all about - which is software plug-ins and hosts.
I think the spirit of the rule is just to maintain some consistency between the website and the contest entry's. To me the scenarios you described are totally in keeping with that.
But of course our benevolent dictator D.H. will straighten me out if I'm wrong with any of that. Smile
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D.H. Miltz
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:09 pm reply with quote
evo2slo wrote:
Any thoughts on wether this would be an appropriate submission, or would it be disqualified?
I think it would be okay, and it won't be disqualified. I'm pretty sure I remember one or two other times when someone mentioned they'd done something along those lines and I don't remember anyone having a problem with it.

Having said that, though, I'm open to arguments the other way (for future contests).
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@dark.nowhere: I think evo2slo's got it right. As long as you use some kind of audio software you meet the requirement. So either of your hypotheticals would be fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:28 am reply with quote
Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:11 am reply with quote
hey guys,
I'm busy writing on a song, not sure if I'll use it for the
jan. competition. however it would be great if s.o. of you native english
speakers could check if s.th. sounds strange since I'm not 100% sure?!

thanks in advance!!
forw
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here it is:

billie can't play a minor
doesn't know how to tune the strings
billie, the way you hold this mandoline
there's s.th. wrong the way you do

billie's in our band
billie's in our band

cause he's the only mandoline play in town

billie can't play d minor
has never learned to tune the strings
billie, the way you hold this mandoline
must really hurt your back

billie's in our band
billie's in our band

cause he's the only mandoline player in town


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evo2slo
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:09 pm reply with quote
forw wrote:
hey guys,
I'm busy writing on a song, not sure if I'll use it for the
jan. competition. however it would be great if s.o. of you native english
speakers could check if s.th. sounds strange since I'm not 100% sure?!

By 's.o.' do you mean 'some'?
By 's.th.' do you mean 'something'?

If it does mean 'something' then I think it works very well the way it's used.

Will you be playing mandolin on the track? I hope we get to hear it!
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forw
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:17 pm reply with quote
evo2slo wrote:
forw wrote:
hey guys,
I'm busy writing on a song, not sure if I'll use it for the
jan. competition. however it would be great if s.o. of you native english
speakers could check if s.th. sounds strange since I'm not 100% sure?!

By 's.o.' do you mean 'some'?
By 's.th.' do you mean 'something'?

If it does mean 'something' then I think it works very well the way it's used.

Will you be playing mandolin on the track? I hope we get to hear it!


s.o. = someone
s.th. = something

I was not sure about these lines in perticular, but seems fine then, thanks!!

billie, the way you hold this mandoline
there's s.th. wrong the way you do

billie, the way you hold this mandoline
must really hurt your back


I can't really play mandoline or guitar but ..hey! why not! I have an acoustic one in my room! good idea!!!!
Very Happy
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evo2slo
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:35 pm reply with quote
forw wrote:
evo2slo wrote:
forw wrote:
hey guys,
I'm busy writing on a song, not sure if I'll use it for the
jan. competition. however it would be great if s.o. of you native english
speakers could check if s.th. sounds strange since I'm not 100% sure?!

By 's.o.' do you mean 'some'?
By 's.th.' do you mean 'something'?

If it does mean 'something' then I think it works very well the way it's used.

Will you be playing mandolin on the track? I hope we get to hear it!


s.o. = someone
s.th. = something

I was not sure about these lines in perticular, but seems fine then, thanks!!

billie, the way you hold this mandoline
there's s.th. wrong the way you do

billie, the way you hold this mandoline
must really hurt your back


I can't really play mandoline or guitar but ..hey! why not! I have an acoustic one in my room! good idea!!!!
Very Happy

Nice thing is the worse you play the better it will fit the song. Wink

My first thought when reading the second line was that mandolins are so small and light, how could it hurt his back? Then I realized you meant that he must awkwardly hunch over it. Even if it's misunderstood I still think its funny. Smile
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forw
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:50 pm reply with quote
evo2slo wrote:


My first thought when reading the second line was that mandolins are so small and light, how could it hurt his back?

haha, yeah , true : )

evo2slo wrote:

Then I realized you meant that he must awkwardly hunch over it. Even if it's misunderstood I still think its funny. Smile


yes, I had this in mind Smile
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robojam
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:00 pm reply with quote
Free for all eh? Might make it easier for me to participate this month. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:33 pm reply with quote
Nice idea Smile

forw wrote:

billie, the way you hold this mandoline
there's s.th. wrong the way you do


It sounds a bit unusual to me, ending with 'do' - it would sound more natural as something like:

There's s.th. wrong with the way you do it
or
There's s.th. wrong with what you're doing
or
There's s.th. wrong with what you do
or
There's s.th. wrong with how you do it
or you could say
There's s.th. wrong, the way you do it

forw wrote:
[/i]
cause he's the only mandoline play in town
[/i]


Should be player

Hopefully that won't mess up your syllable count too much!
Looking forward to hearing it Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:41 pm reply with quote
kryptonaut wrote:
Nice idea Smile

forw wrote:

billie, the way you hold this mandoline
there's s.th. wrong the way you do


It sounds a bit unusual to me, ending with 'do' - it would sound more natural as something like:

There's s.th. wrong with the way you do it
or
There's s.th. wrong with what you're doing
or
There's s.th. wrong with what you do
or
There's s.th. wrong with how you do it
or you could say
There's s.th. wrong, the way you do it

forw wrote:
[/i]
cause he's the only mandoline play in town
[/i]


Hopefully that won't mess up your syllable count too much!
Looking forward to hearing it Smile

Should be player



Ups, yes, was supposed be be player..
thanks alot for correcting the other sentence!
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