Thanks for the comment. I should probably have said 'referenced' rather than 'encoded', some of the mappings are less rigorous than others!




Interesting to read about Zwiefacher rhythms, thanks for the link - must try that some time! But I can't hear ClaRago's entry as anything other than 3/4 time. Am I listening to it in the wrong way?

partly yes: try to dance a Waltz to it! you'll find 'one two one two three, one two one two three etc.'





maybe a good topic for next month's contest: ¡do the Zwiefacher!

Hmmm... what I hear is closer to 'ONE two AND three ONE TWO THREE', so still fitting into a 3/4 signature, and quite waltzable-to. The score linked from the Wikipedia Zwiefacher page is rather different: Schaufelstiel (pdf)

But yes, a Zwiefacher theme would be interesting

[Edit:] 'Golden Brown' by The Stranglers is something that I would say had 'Zwiefacher' sections to it. 1 2 3, 1 2 3, 1 2 3, 1 2, 1 2, ... I remember it being very hard to dance to when I was a student, but that may have been because of the beer

Sorry for having started a "time signature war". It confirmed me however into getting serious with one of my new year's resolutions which is to take some music theory lessons .I am a bit embarrassed of not being able to confirm the signature of my own submission.

War? Nah, just a friendly discussion between a couple of 'nauts

Theory can be interesting, but knowing theory isn't essential to making good music. I suppose sometimes it might be useful when talking about it, though! Anyway, it's certainly not something to feel embarrassed about.

exactly. i love me some '-nauts'



that's it.

i agree mostly on 'Golden Brown', but there is also some ordinary 4/4 going on, imo.

According to songfacts.com:
The intro (and the parts like it) sound like three bars of 3/4, then one of 4/4, with the rest just straight 3/4 like a waltz.
I do not know ,a great song anyway.

Kryptonaut , you actually attempted to dance to that tune? Did you waltz or did you zwiefach?

this means: onetwothreeonetwothreeonetwothreeonetwoonetwo (Zwiefacher) and then Waltz



well, he waltzed a nauty zwie

I think I lurched drunkenly from one foot to the other in a rhythmically complex and ever-changing pattern, probably completely unrelated to the song's time-signature.

Actually, on reflection I'm now wondering whether your song would be better described as 6/8...

wrestling with a new piece this month & all I can say here is "arghhh !"

Glad to see you back anyway. You still have a few days to sort it out.

@ ..nauts & co
This what my friend who is a piano & singing teacher had to say:

"I have just listened to the waltz and if I had to give it a time signature, I would have given it a compound duple time one ie 6/8. More a duple feel than triple, which is why I would not give it the traditional waltz time signature. "

I wish you all a good week end full of music , waltzing, lurching or whatever you feel like.

sounds like a compromise between the nauty boys

cheers

Yay, my wonderful family ran away to granma's and left me to record some epic (and very loud) choirs in peace. (neighbors' peace is another matter but I guess the walls are thick enough).

And never mind the latin bollocios, the ditty will now bear the catchy title of Triskaidekaphobia!

Cheers Matt

I'm in !

I think my piece tells the story for me of a dis-quieting moon

comments appreciated on my SoundCloud page

peace

Thank you Irion Da Ronin for your comments it means a lot

With this being the first time in entering the competition, I would just like to say "Hi all" and happy to be part of the great & welcoming atmosphere on KVR.