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Plugins that create space and depth

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:31 pm
by markanini
I'm always looking for ways to make dry or close miced mono sources sound like they're in front of you, to further back and to the side, to from behind in a convincing and distinctive way.

What are you favorite plugins to achieve these effects?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:39 pm
by cyphersuit
Vengeance Stereo Bundle has everything you need.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:23 pm
by @midnight
check out that freebie Proximity, from the DC 2012

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:33 pm
by markanini
cyphersuit wrote:Vengeance Stereo Bundle has everything you need.

I watched the official product video. The effects seemed to better suited for creating width rather than space and depth.

@midnight wrote:check out that freebie Proximity, from the DC 2012

I have, it's f-ing awesome!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:42 pm
by vata44
doesn't perceived depth deal with volume and velocity?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:07 am
by mandolarian
Melda's Mstereoprocessor can sure open up some space:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/mstereoprocessor_by_meldaproduction

From DC12 there's also Space360: http://www.kvraudio.com/product/space360-by-cytosonic

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:40 am
by murnau
sometimes i use tonebooster free TB EZQ & TB OmniSone in combination with other pugins or alone.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:10 am
by Metanol
To create this kind of effects people have used dummy heads with microphones attached to ears of this head. If I understand it correct is about different filtering of sounds if they are in front, back, up, down, or in side of you. I guess this kind of thing would be able to do with some kind of convolution effect? Or maybe two filters modelled after ears. Something like vowel filter but in this case made after cavities of ears.
I guess it would work well only if someone is listening with headphones. And I think it works best there is some movement in sound like the sound source is moving around you.

I have no idea if anyone has made this kind of plug-in.

edit. I have heard it does not work so good iwith everyone. If your ears are very different from dummys, you dont experience it as coming from different places around you. I guess you learn during your lifetime from where sound seems to be coming.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:17 am
by Selfik
Reverb :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:30 am
by ferez21
Reberb+filter+volume+panning

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:35 am
by Metanol
ferez21 wrote:Reberb+filter+volume+panning


To get perfect result two filters. One for left and one for right. For moving sound they had to be somehow synced or automated.

Or just save time and use 5.1.

OP asked for mono. I cant see any way to achieve this in mono. To make stereo width to mono source vengeance stereo bundle seems just right.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:50 am
by markanini
vaisnava wrote:doesn't perceived depth deal with volume and velocity?

Good question. I'd love to know about mechanisms of depth preception.

Metanol wrote:For moving sound they had to be somehow synced or automated.

I'm talking about a static effects. Sorry about the confusion.

I just played around with a plugin pertaining to the topic, MStereogenerator. In a way it's a glorified reverb but it but as such it has a distinctive and unique sound that I can see myself using on stuff I want to keep center panned. The downside is that it can't be used as a send effect(wtf?).

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:50 am
by ferez21
Metanol wrote:Or just save time and use 5.1

Can you expand on that?
I know Meldaproduction plugins for example, can process 5.1 audio, but i never understood how can i use this feature in my music.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:44 am
by Aiynzahev
I'd just do it with the HAAS effect and some instances of Relab.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:13 am
by Lotuzia
Xils-Lab ChorX maybe : Its a spatializer Chorus, but I know some people use it only for the spatializer side. Then you'll still have a wonderfull vintage chorus for free, or can combine both.