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Time Compression Algorhythm capable of +30 bpm with minimal artifacts, SUGGESTIONS??
Ascendant
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:52 am reply with quote
As the title says really, Im looking for a time stretching/compression algorhythm capable of increasing a track from 109bpm to 139bpm and further preferrably. Im currently doing a progressive remix of Queen Flash but any attempt to manipulate the tempo within logic using both the flex time features and the time and pitch machine has created lax lustre results at best. I have also attempted to use Melodyne which yielded better results but theres still certainly room for improvement. If any one knows of a better technique without bringing those terrible glitching artifacts that come from removing samples it would be much appreciated. Im sure I could go granular within Alchemy for an interesting sound but Im not sure to go about this of the top of my head. Im open to suggestions people.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:47 am reply with quote
I found the one in Reaper to be pretty good... it's a quick download and install, then just drag the wav file onto Reaper and (I think) alt-drag the right end to stretch/squeeze the file to the desired length.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:50 am reply with quote
Maybe this? http://www.paulnasca.com/open-source-projects#TOC-Paul-s-Ext reme-Sound-Stretch
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:52 am reply with quote
Maybe the resynthesis engine in Harmor can do this?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:53 am reply with quote
im guessing if hes using logic hes on mac Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:56 am reply with quote
vurt wrote:
im guessing if hes using logic hes on mac Wink


your'e right D'oh!

but but but...maybe he also got a PC Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:10 am reply with quote
Maybe I should reiterate my original question. Im looking for something capable of good time compression rather than time stretching. I have downloaded paulsstretch AU in any case (from what I read it was all about time stretching rather than the former). I could give reaper a go I suppose but I can't see it being that effective, saying that though I have no prior experience using the software so it may well be alot more capable than Im giving it credit for. More suggestions certainly welcome though.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:12 am reply with quote
paul stretch can do both, theres a little arrow to choose near the top left
at least the pc version does...?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:22 am reply with quote
try Audiofile Engineering Sample Manager or Triumph.


http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/samplemanager/
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:08 am reply with quote
vurt wrote:
paul stretch can do both, theres a little arrow to choose near the top left
at least the pc version does...?


Ive done a little more reading and right you are, I can't see this not working from the results ive heard and everyones response, looks incredible. Tahnk you very much mate. Case pretty much closed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:12 am reply with quote
docdued wrote:
I found the one in Reaper to be pretty good... it's a quick download and install, then just drag the wav file onto Reaper and (I think) alt-drag the right end to stretch/squeeze the file to the desired length.


Reaper comes with several algorithms for stretching/contracting. Depending on the material, I've found different ones work better.

That is the one I use. Though I use several DAWs (bad habits die hard) those are the best I've found.

Granted, it is not an effect I use very often...and have not looked hard, but it is probably worth the demo download to see.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:16 am reply with quote
Radius.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:33 am reply with quote
can't be done without sounding like crap.
Are you using an acapella or the song?
you may have to adjust your target BPM down.
For vocals, take half the bpm of the original. Stretch it in a new track to half the bpm you want, then bounce that to a new track.
You can't be progressive at 128?
My secret list says the bpm is 107.83, so 108.
Chop it to phrases and try it that way..
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:51 am reply with quote
And a lot of people are hot for Melodyne....
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:47 am reply with quote
osiris wrote:
can't be done without sounding like crap.
Are you using an acapella or the song?
you may have to adjust your target BPM down.
For vocals, take half the bpm of the original. Stretch it in a new track to half the bpm you want, then bounce that to a new track.
You can't be progressive at 128?
My secret list says the bpm is 107.83, so 108.
Chop it to phrases and try it that way..


I should have said Progressive Psy Trance, 128 most definitely wont do. Also there is a Tomcraft remix that came out the same time as the Vanguard remix which is 139 and that sounds pretty decent in terms of the time compression on the original. From playing around for ages within logic it definitely isn't 107/8, saying that its variably obviously as it accoustic but it certainly fits in segments at 109bpm best. Ive already tried Melodyne as stated as well and that was better than logic but certainly not fantastic. Paulstretch seems the way forward from the look of things.
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