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how to create the sound of a butterfly
simsung
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:02 am reply with quote
hi,

im workin on a little game for kids these days.
almost everything is done except of a few sound FX.

can somebody give me hints how to create the sound of a butterfly.
i once heard something recording paper and pitching it - but im not very satisfied with the results.

so can anyone help?

meanwhile i try to give a rhino, an antilope and a hippo a sound Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:18 am reply with quote
http://www.findsounds.com/types.html

see any luck there
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:09 am reply with quote
thx! unfortunatelly not there.
but i wanted to create it myself anyway. so what id like to know is how to create the sound of the wings
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:28 am reply with quote
simsung wrote:
thx! unfortunatelly not there.
but i wanted to create it myself anyway. so what id like to know is how to create the sound of the wings


Well, flapping something like a wing, recording it, eq, compressing etc.
Or, you can use some of the commercial sound libraries, e.g. I've
used Soundsnap, there are some wings flappings which may suit for you,
if you edit and eq them a bit, (listen e.g. wings flapping #2).
http://www.soundsnap.com/search/audio/wings+flapping/score
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:52 am reply with quote
For a synthesis solution, start with white noise, and select an LFO set to modulate amplitude (volume). A sine wave will probably give you the smoothest wing sound, but try square, triangle and saw waves too. Set it at nearly 100%, so the noise fades in and out in time with the rate control.

Then turn the rate control up until it matches the speed of the animation in the game. Add a slight attack time, and a fairly short release time, and you should be able to "play" the take offs and landings.

If you can assign the rate of the LFO to your mod wheel or other controller, you can change wings speeds to picture in real time.

For a lighter sound, try using a high pass filter. For a more cartoony wing flap, try the technique above with a filter cutoff in tandem with the amp LFO. Turn up the resonance and tune the filter to taste.

Good Luck!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:35 am reply with quote
VERY Cool!!! thanks for your quick help!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:09 am reply with quote
Xenobt wrote:
For a synthesis solution, start with white noise, and select an LFO set to modulate amplitude (volume). A sine wave will probably give you the smoothest wing sound, but try square, triangle and saw waves too. Set it at nearly 100%, so the noise fades in and out in time with the rate control.

Then turn the rate control up until it matches the speed of the animation in the game. Add a slight attack time, and a fairly short release time, and you should be able to "play" the take offs and landings.

If you can assign the rate of the LFO to your mod wheel or other controller, you can change wings speeds to picture in real time.

For a lighter sound, try using a high pass filter. For a more cartoony wing flap, try the technique above with a filter cutoff in tandem with the amp LFO. Turn up the resonance and tune the filter to taste.

Good Luck!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:35 am reply with quote
noise > bandpass filters with graphic envelopes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:03 am reply with quote
kelvyn wrote:
Xenobt wrote:
For a synthesis solution, start with white noise, and select an LFO set to modulate amplitude (volume). A sine wave will probably give you the smoothest wing sound, but try square, triangle and saw waves too. Set it at nearly 100%, so the noise fades in and out in time with the rate control.

Then turn the rate control up until it matches the speed of the animation in the game. Add a slight attack time, and a fairly short release time, and you should be able to "play" the take offs and landings.

If you can assign the rate of the LFO to your mod wheel or other controller, you can change wings speeds to picture in real time.

For a lighter sound, try using a high pass filter. For a more cartoony wing flap, try the technique above with a filter cutoff in tandem with the amp LFO. Turn up the resonance and tune the filter to taste.

Good Luck!

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Thank you, friend! I've been programming synths since the mid 70's, when you made everything from scratch, every time, so that helped a lot. And I've done my share of sound design for computer animation and games, where real isn't what's really needed. Audible butterfly wings fit that category perfectly! Laughing

Plus, I love a good sound design challenge!

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