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werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:31 pm

which would you choose and why?
I also have a possible connection to a Moog Voyager XL at a hard to resist figure...
Thanks in advance

werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:08 pm

The more I read, the more I lean towards the Voyager XL...bugger.
Wishes he couldn't read...

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:10 pm

The XL is seriously droolworthy.
If you can afford one do it man.

werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:15 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:The XL is seriously droolworthy.
If you can afford one do it man.

I sent a rather cheeky email 20 minutes ago regarding a brand new XL.
Could save me $2200...australian so it's probably only worth a decent coffee...I haven't had one for years.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:19 pm

werp wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote:The XL is seriously droolworthy.
If you can afford one do it man.
I sent a rather cheeky email 20 minutes ago regarding a brand new XL.
Could save me $2200...australian so it's probably only worth a decent coffee...I haven't had one for years.

Not that you will be considering resale already but I suspect the limited run of the XL will mean it holds its value a lot more than a standard Voyager.

werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:33 pm

Desk real estate being what it is, an XL would have to become my main midi controller I'd have to dispose of the ImpOSCar. ... I'm not sure I could lift the XL without having more titanium inserted in my person...well, there's that decision made. I'll have to allow an extra hour in airports getting through metal detectors. No biggie if they give me a chair..
Starts plotting.

werp · Post by **werp** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:43 pm

Thinks I'd prefer the drive of the 37... But no cv outs on it...I could wait until this Tribute edition has run its course and then Moog will release the Sub 37 stage II but with 61 keys...
Then plug my cp-251 as for the third oscillator and..oh sod it, I should have been asleep yesterday

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:32 pm

The Voyager XL could open the door to modular rabithole.

but yeah if you have a good offer for the XL and you have the money get it.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:17 pm

I have a voyager + the CV output expander. Basically the cheater XL. It is excellent working with my MU modular gear. However, I also use the MIDI output quite often just to get pitch, trigger and gate into the modular. So, depending on what you might want to do, the 37 may be just as capable as the Voyager for driving a modular.

There are so many functions in the 37 that the Voyager does not have, I'd be sorely tempted to go that direction. And then live with using MIDI to drive modular. Both are super for controlling VSTi.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:22 pm

I forgot that the other downside is lack of octaves on the 37 keyboard. I guess that would be an important part of the decision for a "main controller"

ImNotDedYet · Post by **ImNotDedYet** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:07 pm

Can you really go wrong with any of them?

I have a 37, love it. If given the opportunity though, I'd probably go XL. CV out would be fantastic, although the new firmware update to the 37 will make it incredible.

bill45 · Post by **bill45** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:09 pm

How is the midi implementation on the sub 37? People say the voyagers don't respond very well
to things like pitchbend and other controller data. are the newer moogs any better.

ImNotDedYet · Post by **ImNotDedYet** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:16 pm

bill45 wrote:How is the midi implementation on the sub 37? People say the voyagers don't respond very well
to things like pitchbend and other controller data. are the newer moogs any better.

MIDI's worked fine for everything I've tried to do with the Sub. I'm not sure if I've ever tried MIDI automating the pitchbend wheel, but plenty of other knobs automation have worked just fine for me.

treebeard · Post by **treebeard** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:29 pm

I have a 37 too and love it to bits! I would feel hard to justify the price of a Voyager XL but if money was no issue - i'd get one, sure

Does the Voyager have a sequencer and arpeggiator? The 37's is truly astounding - realtime step edit, sequence length edit 1-64steps, ratcheting, skips, ties, rests, swing...fun!

37 will never have CV outs though.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:46 pm

I'd get the Sub 37

Serious question. Moog Voyager or Moog Sub 37?