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Need a good midi drum track construction tool
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:32 pm reply with quote
I'm looking for a good tool to help me construct midi drum tracks. It needs to be able to output to VSTi, or at least to DXi with a wrapper (I'm using DFH Superior for drum sounds). I need to be able to map out a measure or two on a piano roll or similar grid, and then construct the track by laying out those loops in specific order.

Interface is important, as I need something intuitive and easy to use for this specific purpose. If I didn't need VSTi output, PC Drummer (http://www.pcdrummer.com/) would be a good example.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a tool that would help me accomplish this task easily?
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:42 pm reply with quote
You're looking for a midi drum machine. I've been bleating about the lack of one for yonks.

Nobody listens, nobody cares. Can't they feel my pain. Heartless bastards.
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:55 pm reply with quote
Have you looked at sonicbytes ERA? I've been using it for drums and it's excellent (at least to me): http://www.sonicbytes.com/

I use it with RMIV and it makes things a lot easier...

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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 4:04 pm reply with quote
there is nothing better than the musiclab products
http://www.musiclab.com
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 4:32 pm reply with quote
If you mean SlicyDrummer and FillinDrummer, I'm not sure I agree... they just don't seem like quite what I'm looking for.

I haven't tried ERA. How does it handle alternate time signatures? I sometimes go between 4/4 and 5/4, for instance. And how does it fare when chaining loops together to make a final track? That's what I need -- something that lets me easily edit a pool of drum loops and chain them together with the click of a button, without having to copy/paste specific phrases... maybe Project5, or something similar? I really don't know...
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 5:07 pm reply with quote
Jammer doesn't have VST support but for generating cool drum tracks, it's as good, and in my opinion, better than anything out there. I use it constantly to generate my midi drum tracks. It's extremely fast, flexible, and most importantly, not robotic sounding. When I'm satisfied with the MIDI track, I just export it as a MIDI file, import it into n-Track, and then send it to my RMIV VST plug-in. In my opinion it's the best thing out there. It's so simple to re-record song sections, measures, and even beats until you are totally satisfied with the part. It's literally a one push button operation. Plus the really cool thing is that it does much more than just drums!
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 5:54 pm reply with quote
Sage wrote:
If you mean SlicyDrummer and FillinDrummer, I'm not sure I agree... they just don't seem like quite what I'm looking for.

I haven't tried ERA. How does it handle alternate time signatures? I sometimes go between 4/4 and 5/4, for instance. And how does it fare when chaining loops together to make a final track? That's what I need -- something that lets me easily edit a pool of drum loops and chain them together with the click of a button, without having to copy/paste specific phrases... maybe Project5, or something similar? I really don't know...


ERA will do that & more no sweat, but it doesn't work in stand-alone; you route it to whatever you want to have it drive within your sequencer.
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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:42 pm reply with quote
look for Orion instead of Project 5
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