Adventures
- KVRAF
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- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
- KVRAF
- 12354 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
This is such an expressive piece! It's insane how the sound changes but remains identifiable as originating from that cello-esque timbre. Really fantastic!
Was this a single take performance or recorded in multiple parts. I just can't identify and obvious edits.
Thanks!
Was this a single take performance or recorded in multiple parts. I just can't identify and obvious edits.
Thanks!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Thanks - single take (usually the case) - lots of morphing using Kore 2.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Should have added this was made using Modelonia; I created a cello-like patch then variations between cello and flute all stored in Kore's morph grid, then moved between them, exploring the in-between timbres and musical spaces as I played. I wanted something close to Berio's Sequenza approach where the aim is to explore expressively every microtimbre of the sonic possibilities inherent within a particular instrument. It also tries to navigate a tension between minimalism and expressionism.
Personally I like the bits where the sound is split on the cusp between two timbres creating a sort of resonant interplay. It sounds like more than one instrument and take but really it's just 2 hands. Flutescrape (and several others) attempt something similar...
https://soundcloud.com/kymeia/flutescrapes-export-1
Personally I like the bits where the sound is split on the cusp between two timbres creating a sort of resonant interplay. It sounds like more than one instrument and take but really it's just 2 hands. Flutescrape (and several others) attempt something similar...
https://soundcloud.com/kymeia/flutescrapes-export-1
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- addled muppet weed
- 105849 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 6895 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs
dragged my ears into some uncomfortable spaces , but i backed the volume
down a tad , and continued ... quite taken by the expressive flow , and the nuance
revealed as you navigated through the kore grid ...
probably would have worked better , for me , a tad lower down the fretboard ...
all told , an enlightening listen ...
pity kore was dropped from development ...
you remain a staunch advocate however ...
down a tad , and continued ... quite taken by the expressive flow , and the nuance
revealed as you navigated through the kore grid ...
probably would have worked better , for me , a tad lower down the fretboard ...
all told , an enlightening listen ...
pity kore was dropped from development ...
you remain a staunch advocate however ...
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Have to, nothing else can do thisexperimental.crow wrote:..
pity kore was dropped from development ...
you remain a staunch advocate however ...
thanks for listening
- KVRAF
- 14965 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
Great mood to this...
The sound reminds me more of a bowed psaltery then a cello.
This is well played and well composed.
I found it very enjoyable.
The sound reminds me more of a bowed psaltery then a cello.
This is well played and well composed.
I found it very enjoyable.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105849 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
wonderful piece
the marriage of the two timbres works well, becomes its own instrument at times
sadly missed out on the wonders of kore
enjoyed the celloverse though. next up flutescrapes
the marriage of the two timbres works well, becomes its own instrument at times
sadly missed out on the wonders of kore
enjoyed the celloverse though. next up flutescrapes
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- KVRian
- 893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006
Overall, I enjoyed this one.
Sound design is excellent.
Composition kept me interested, but for me it lacked attention to detail with regard to shape and structure on both a macro and micro level.
Berio's Sequenzas always zoomed in on timbral experimentation, but had many other areas of focus as well...not surprising as the first was in the late 1950s and he was still composing them in the early 2000s! :0)
Sound design is excellent.
Composition kept me interested, but for me it lacked attention to detail with regard to shape and structure on both a macro and micro level.
Berio's Sequenzas always zoomed in on timbral experimentation, but had many other areas of focus as well...not surprising as the first was in the late 1950s and he was still composing them in the early 2000s! :0)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Oh well yes I could never hope to match the brilliance of Berio in a million years - he is one of my favourite composers. Deserves to be better known.
Here I was just exploring the timbral landscape, I love how the sequenzas also enable exploration of the physicality both of the instrument and the player - harder to do that using virtual instruments (although I have explored some methods of doing that, even including playing piano with a broken hand on one occasion to see how it constrained/framed the playing and added found elements to the music)
ps I wouldn't really glorify this by calling it a 'composition', like most of my pieces this is all improvised, hence the lack of attention to detail probably That's one way I add a physical/mental constraint though.
Here I was just exploring the timbral landscape, I love how the sequenzas also enable exploration of the physicality both of the instrument and the player - harder to do that using virtual instruments (although I have explored some methods of doing that, even including playing piano with a broken hand on one occasion to see how it constrained/framed the playing and added found elements to the music)
ps I wouldn't really glorify this by calling it a 'composition', like most of my pieces this is all improvised, hence the lack of attention to detail probably That's one way I add a physical/mental constraint though.
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- KVRAF
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- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Thanks, yes it's the in-between micro-spaces and transitions that always fascinate me musically (and in my painting and writing) the mostvurt wrote:wonderful piece
the marriage of the two timbres works well, becomes its own instrument at times
sadly missed out on the wonders of kore
enjoyed the celloverse though. next up flutescrapes
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- KVRian
- 893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006
Agreed...performing / studying his work at University helped to 'free' my whole approach towards music.aMUSEd wrote:he is one of my favourite composers. Deserves to be better known.
He often explored and extended ideas from older pieces by other composers in this area that you mention...aMUSEd wrote:I love how the sequenzas also enable exploration of the physicality both of the instrument and the player
The violin Sequenza (no. 8 or 9?) takes elements from Bach's D minor Chaconne and develops them in interesting directions - like the Bach, the density of sound is extraordinary at times...more like an ensemble!
Fair enough, but there are some superbly structured improvs out there, although, admittedly many may have been rehearsed quite a bit first! :0)aMUSEd wrote: like most of my pieces this is all improvised, hence the lack of attention to detail probably
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
My Feedback
Weirdness - 9.5
Instruments - 8
Performance - 8
Mix - 8.5
Overall - 8.5
Comments: I don't usually listen to tracks this long but I'm sitting here waiting for my VSL library to copy over to my new SSD drive (man this thing is fast) so I figured, what the heck. It's a way to kill 10 minutes. So, where to begin? Well, odd would be an understatement. The shrill high synths kind of hurt my ears a bit, so I had to turn the volume down just a tad. Using the "Vurt" feedback system, on the weirdness scale you nearly rang the bell. Everything else was good. Not something I'd listen to as a regular diet, but I have to admit, this was unusual and well done for what it is. Good job!
Weirdness - 9.5
Instruments - 8
Performance - 8
Mix - 8.5
Overall - 8.5
Comments: I don't usually listen to tracks this long but I'm sitting here waiting for my VSL library to copy over to my new SSD drive (man this thing is fast) so I figured, what the heck. It's a way to kill 10 minutes. So, where to begin? Well, odd would be an understatement. The shrill high synths kind of hurt my ears a bit, so I had to turn the volume down just a tad. Using the "Vurt" feedback system, on the weirdness scale you nearly rang the bell. Everything else was good. Not something I'd listen to as a regular diet, but I have to admit, this was unusual and well done for what it is. Good job!
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 35294 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Thanks - tbh I didn't think it was particularly weird but I listen to/create stuff like this all the time so for me this is normal music