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jens
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18288 posts since 12 Jul, 2003, from West Caprazumia

Postby jens; Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:42 am That's really too much now

Had left my machine running in the afternoon. Windows 10. Came back to it this evening, a few hours later.
Was greeted with a screen that said my OS was in the process of being updated. Subsequently found out that this is an "anniversary update" Microsoft seems mightily proud of. Windows10 updates automatically; there's nothing the Average Joe user like me can do about this. Restarted Reaper; loaded the song that had been loaded when I left a few hours ago. One message from XLN that AD isn't authorized for this machine. More messages for all the Waves plugins I am using for this song. Started Waves Central; it tells me that all my licenses are on a "disconnected device". Since it's the same machine Prior to the update, there's no way to move the licenses to the Cloud. Would have to use the "recover licenses" function. Waves tells me I can use this function only once a year. When's the next Windows10 update due?

f**k this shit!!!

WHY THE f**k AM I SO BRAINDEAD TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE PLUGINS???

!!!f**kers f**kers f**kers!!!
" It is a measurable fact. Not my opinion. And not even subtle. If you can't hear difference in tail between Valhalla and VSR reverb tail then again change your job dude." kmonkey
jens
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18288 posts since 12 Jul, 2003, from West Caprazumia

Postby jens; Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:49 am Re: That's really too much now

Waves Tech Support is reserved for customers whose products are currently covered by Waves Update Plan.


So nice!!!
" It is a measurable fact. Not my opinion. And not even subtle. If you can't hear difference in tail between Valhalla and VSR reverb tail then again change your job dude." kmonkey
jens
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18288 posts since 12 Jul, 2003, from West Caprazumia

Postby jens; Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:07 pm Re: That's really too much now

I managed to revert to the previous build - that made AD2 work again (but with the XLN installer it's not a problem to recover licenses anyway) but Waves Central still believes the licenses are used for another different device.


Please take note:

no problem with Ilok soft and Plugin Alliance etc. whatsoever.
" It is a measurable fact. Not my opinion. And not even subtle. If you can't hear difference in tail between Valhalla and VSR reverb tail then again change your job dude." kmonkey
legendCNCD
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551 posts since 23 Sep, 2004, from there

Postby legendCNCD; Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:37 am Re: That's really too much now

You can disable and stop Windows Update -service? Enable it when you want to update (taking a backup of OS partition before)
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Googly Smythe
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1384 posts since 11 May, 2011, from The 51st state

Postby Googly Smythe; Sun Oct 02, 2016 3:40 am Re: That's really too much now

legendCNCD wrote:You can disable and stop Windows Update -service? Enable it when you want to update (taking a backup of OS partition before)

Only with the "Pro" edition. :(
Pro - ha ha!
jdnz
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553 posts since 2 Oct, 2011, from Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby jdnz; Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:33 am Re: That's really too much now

Ayorinde wrote:
legendCNCD wrote:You can disable and stop Windows Update -service? Enable it when you want to update (taking a backup of OS partition before)

Only with the "Pro" edition. :(
Pro - ha ha!


he's talking about disabling the actual service via the services management console - that works on all editions

there's also this which lets you hide specific updates (so in theory you could hide the anniv update but keep getting security updates)

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/block-unw ... windows-10
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jackoo
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540 posts since 3 Jul, 2006

Postby jackoo; Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:39 am Re: That's really too much now

That's why Windows 10 will have to wait...
Indefinitely... for now :D
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Zombie Queen
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4033 posts since 1 Aug, 2005, from Warszawa, Poland

Postby Zombie Queen; Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:25 am Re: That's really too much now

Updates replaced virus threat these days. You can prevent w10 from updating by setting all net connections as "metered", wireless connections can be set in control panel, wired connections can be set by registry edit. If you find a safe moment to try to update, you can just flip the switch then.
jens
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18288 posts since 12 Jul, 2003, from West Caprazumia

Postby jens; Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:38 am Re: That's really too much now

For the record, I managed to fix the problem later that evening - after googling it and browsing forums - needless to say there does not seem to be any info whatsoever on Waves' Website.

Apparently the update made my (disabled, I don't even use it) LAN controller lose its Network Address - and curiously enough Waves Central apparently uses this as a basis for an estimation whether it's the same device or not - that doesn't make any sense to me, but the "disconnected device" which Waves Central listed was carrying this number, so I had to copy and paste it from Waves Central into the device Manager's properties window for my LAN Controller and restart my machine.

And I just had purchased H-Reverb the day before and actually had planned to use the bit of quality time I had to play around with it instead of having to fix this shitty problem in order to even be able to load it.

That has taught me something: it certainly was the last Waves plugin I ever purchased.
" It is a measurable fact. Not my opinion. And not even subtle. If you can't hear difference in tail between Valhalla and VSR reverb tail then again change your job dude." kmonkey
DarkStar
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7847 posts since 2 Sep, 2003, from Surrey, UK

Postby DarkStar; Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:06 am Re: That's really too much now

^^^^
I'm glad that you got it sorted out.

And I'm sure that you will be letting Waves know - both about its 'picky' hardware checks and your future purchasing decision.
DarkStar
Interesting, if true ...
jdnz
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553 posts since 2 Oct, 2011, from Christchurch, New Zealand

Postby jdnz; Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:39 am Re: That's really too much now

sadly Waves isn't the only company that uses your network MAC address as the system ID, for developers it's an easy option as they presume your LAN/wLAN is built in and won't ever change (great theory 'til you're using a desktop with wifi card), and it's the only thing easily accessible that is guaranteed unique (except as you've seen software can over-ride the hardware address)

only really safe option with waves is to put the licenses on a usb drive.I actually wish they still supported ilok activation since if I'm going to have to have a usb device plugged in to authorise waves I'd like to save a usb port and use something I've already got plugged in
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rod_zero
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2184 posts since 28 Jan, 2011, from MEXICO

Postby rod_zero; Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:25 pm Re: That's really too much now

Looking forward I am going to be more carefull with plug in purchases and their CP method.

Elicenser software doesn't function after updates but is a minor fix, just run it as administrator. but other CP may be more inconvenient.
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Zombie Queen
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4033 posts since 1 Aug, 2005, from Warszawa, Poland

Postby Zombie Queen; Mon Oct 03, 2016 12:31 pm Re: That's really too much now

It looks like W10 can turn off metered connection setting by itself, at least for wireless (it's gonna cost me as my connection, in fact, is metered). So better to disable update service altogether, this helped. Good work Microsoft, if I don't cool off by tomorrow, I'll be rolling back all machines to XP. :x :bang:
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MFXxx
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2682 posts since 27 Mar, 2010, from UK

Postby MFXxx; Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:20 pm Re: That's really too much now

Funny enough not had any problems, saying that for some reason my machine refutes the update [Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB3194496).] If this is the anniversary update then lucky me. Any other subsequent updates are perfectly fine :)
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thecontrolcentre
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20255 posts since 27 Jul, 2005, from the wilds of wanny

Postby thecontrolcentre; Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:38 pm Re: That's really too much now

Zombie Queen wrote:Good work Microsoft, if I don't cool off by tomorrow, I'll be rolling back all machines to XP. :x :bang:

I was really happy on XP until last year when support from dev's was dissapearing. When Live stopped supporting XP I bit the bullet and got a machine with Win8.1 ... I'll not upgrade again until I absolutely have to.
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