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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:32 am reply with quote
Sonatine for Piano and Spektral Delay

Sorry about the length (again).

Just played as it is - no messing (as usual).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:35 am reply with quote
I get a 404 here,sir Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:00 pm reply with quote
working now ...
and well worth a listen ...

melancholy ...
the stir of echoes created w/ SD adds depth to a well played comp ...
goes down well with the grey and rainy day i'm enveloped in ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:08 pm reply with quote
An interesting piano piece. But I differ with normal, I found the delay to be more of a distraction from the music. Since the composition is fairly straightforward piano playing, the delay as is feels to me more like a shortcut, a means of getting more notes in without playing.

I would much rather hear the delay played like a second voice (or in the case of Spektral Delay, a series of other voices). Perhaps space out the composition a bit more and reduce the amount of feedback, so that you are playing with the delay.

Overall, a nice evocation of mood with the melody.

A question about your apology on length: is 4 minutes considered long usually? Didn't seem long to me at all, and the download wasn't large.

Cheers,
Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:08 pm reply with quote
The delay is just another voice for the piano to interact with - sort of a dialogue. Adding it later wouldn't have worked for me - it had to be real time because its played "from the heart" - not planned. And if the delay hadn't been there I wouldn't have felt inspired to play that way - so it's necessary you see.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:11 pm reply with quote
normal wrote:
working now ...
and well worth a listen ...

melancholy ...
the stir of echoes created w/ SD adds depth to a well played comp ...
goes down well with the grey and rainy day i'm enveloped in ...


Thanks. I'm just getting into playing keyboards now I can't play guitar anymore. It's simple but felt.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:14 pm reply with quote
aMUSEd wrote:
The delay is just another voice for the piano to interact with - sort of a dialogue. Adding it later wouldn't have worked for me - it had to be real time because its played "from the heart" - not planned. And if the delay hadn't been there I wouldn't have felt inspired to play that way - so it's necessary you see.

Sorry if I was vague, but I wasn't suggesting removing the delay, but rather making the dialogue between the two more explicit by giving both your playing and the delay more of their own space in the composition.

Cheers,
Steve
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:19 pm reply with quote
great track , beautifull Embarassed
( very lots of excuses ( Very Happy ) , i would add some reverb )
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:20 pm reply with quote
... with the respective SpekDelay !
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:26 pm reply with quote
shamann wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
The delay is just another voice for the piano to interact with - sort of a dialogue. Adding it later wouldn't have worked for me - it had to be real time because its played "from the heart" - not planned. And if the delay hadn't been there I wouldn't have felt inspired to play that way - so it's necessary you see.

Sorry if I was vague, but I wasn't suggesting removing the delay, but rather making the dialogue between the two more explicit by giving both your playing and the delay more of their own space in the composition.

Cheers,
Steve


I know. No problem. It's just it wasn't really thought out that way. I just played what I felt and recorded it straight off. Just a sort of spontaneous thing but one I kept instead of binning for once Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:36 pm reply with quote
aMUSEd wrote:
Just a sort of spontaneous thing but one I kept instead of binning for once Smile

Good choice. Best not to bin. And I do like your playing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:15 pm reply with quote
beautiful piece, right my alley.

what piano did you use for this one? sounds very goooooood.

i like the delays but i agree that you could try to give more space to the sounds (stereo panning ?)

thanks for sharing Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:23 pm reply with quote
Wopelka wrote:
beautiful piece, right my alley.

what piano did you use for this one? sounds very goooooood.


Thanks.

The piano is just one of the piano's in my Korg N364 (Stereo Keys) - amazingly it sounds better to me than almost any other sampled piano I've tried (even big ones like the Maestro).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:25 pm reply with quote
I'm just glad you didn't bin this Very Happy

Nuff said about the delay, and I think this has quite the sensitivity tracks such as this need.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 8:49 pm reply with quote
Liked the track alot! Correct me if I'm wrong, the higher notes were triggering the delay, while the lower ones were not. I heard NI guitar rig could do this, but it didn't occur to me that Spek cuold do this, but it makes sense (me not thinking that is). I got to read the manual on that one.
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