https://www.bitwig.com/en/17/new-license-model.html
If I would have known this before, I'd never go Bigwig...
Latest News: Bitwig updates Bitwig Studio to v5.1
License model no way !!!
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from Berlin
We're happy about any constructive criticism, but change the subject to something less offensive, please.
Cheers,
Dom
Thanks for the edit, PHY6!
Cheers,
Dom
Thanks for the edit, PHY6!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 576 posts since 6 May, 2009 from Holland
Is this better. ?
you can't imagine how pissed off I feel about this decision.
Bigwig has never worked good for me in the past 2 years, all to do with midi clock sync.
Now to find out I have to pay this much to get it to work is just ridiculous .
you can't imagine how pissed off I feel about this decision.
Bigwig has never worked good for me in the past 2 years, all to do with midi clock sync.
Now to find out I have to pay this much to get it to work is just ridiculous .
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from Berlin
Pretty good! Until the vulgar comment just 4 words afterwards...PHY6 wrote:Is this better. ?
A bit more civil language would go a long way...PHY6 wrote: you can't imagine how pissed off I feel about this decision.
That's a bit vague, get in contact with the support team and give us the details, i try to take care of it personally to see what can be done!PHY6 wrote: Bigwig has never worked good for me in the past 2 years, all to do with midi clock sync.
Now to find out I have to pay this much to get it to work is just ridiculous .
Cheers.
Dom
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from Berlin
https://www.bitwig.com/en/17/new-license-model.htmlGamma-UT wrote:What happens if the subscription lapses? Do you have to buy back in for some additional amount (similar to Pro Tools) when you buy a new year's worth of support/upgrades?
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 30 Jun, 2015
Dom what reasons for this decision?
Does it have to do with online collaburation and sevrer maintance or why would you change payment? I belive everybody thinks you guys disslike this. Please tell us why.
Does it have to do with online collaburation and sevrer maintance or why would you change payment? I belive everybody thinks you guys disslike this. Please tell us why.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 576 posts since 6 May, 2009 from Holland
That's just how I feel about this Dom, no more no less...dom@bitwig wrote:Pretty good! Until the vulgar comment just 4 words afterwards...PHY6 wrote:Is this better. ?
A bit more civil language would go a long way...PHY6 wrote: you can't imagine how pissed off I feel about this decision.
That's a bit vague, get in contact with the support team and give us the details, i try to take care of it personally to see what can be done!PHY6 wrote: Bigwig has never worked good for me in the past 2 years, all to do with midi clock sync.
Now to find out I have to pay this much to get it to work is just ridiculous .
Cheers.
Dom
Syncing external hardware to BW is just impossible in V1.
No way to alter the clock to line it up with BW.
Other basic functions like fades have never been addressed.
I feel that there will always be something not working properly, and with these payed updates, you end up paying way too much, just to see this implemented.
Subscription software is always something that held me off buying it.
Now to see that BW is going down this route, makes me really angry.
In the past I've been in touch with support about this and other 'bugs', and I feel like being a paid beta tester all this time, to the point that I stopped using BW, waiting for this to come.
And now this...
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from Berlin
One of the main reasons is that we now can introduce bigger features a lot more often with small updates instead of collecting and holding them back for major releases like a 2.0 or a 3.0 - it might worry some when reading this, but i'm totally looking forward to it as it actually is a nice change because it will allow us to grow Bitwig Studio on a way more regular basis and introduce exciting stuff a lot more often and frequently.Coockie1176ln wrote:Dom what reasons for this decision?
Does it have to do with online collaburation and sevrer maintance or why would you change payment? I belive everybody thinks you guys disslike this. Please tell us why.
Cheers,
Dom
PHY6: As i suggested, please get in contact with the support team for the details and we can try to find a solution, makes no sense to dive in to every single personal issue in a forum thread. Thanks!
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- KVRist
- 52 posts since 22 May, 2014
This is just ridiculous though, honestly.
With as much time as I've invested into this program, I never would have even considered it to begin with if I knew there was going to be a yearly fee slapped onto it. I can't even begin to describe how stupid of an idea this is.
With as much time as I've invested into this program, I never would have even considered it to begin with if I knew there was going to be a yearly fee slapped onto it. I can't even begin to describe how stupid of an idea this is.
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- KVRian
- 1107 posts since 30 Jun, 2015
Will network and online collab come in 2.0? Looking forward to it so much
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 576 posts since 6 May, 2009 from Holland
Just replied to an email conversation I had about this with you in 2015.dom@bitwig wrote:One of the main reasons is that we now can introduce bigger features a lot more often with small updates instead of collecting and holding them back for major releases like a 2.0 or a 3.0 - it might worry some when reading this, but i'm totally looking forward to it as it actually is a nice change because it will allow us to grow Bitwig Studio on a way more regular basis and introduce exciting stuff a lot more often and frequently.Coockie1176ln wrote:Dom what reasons for this decision?
Does it have to do with online collaburation and sevrer maintance or why would you change payment? I belive everybody thinks you guys disslike this. Please tell us why.
Cheers,
Dom
PHY6: As i suggested, please get in contact with the support team for the details and we can try to find a solution, makes no sense to dive in to every single personal issue in a forum thread. Thanks!
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- KVRian
- 1222 posts since 2 Dec, 2008 from Finland
I'm not entirely opposed to this, certainly it's a model that will provide the HQ more revenue in order to keep up the good work, but I do think the price as it is now.. it feels quite hefty.
The page about the new model isn't all that clear about what it means for existing customers. I've moved entirely over to using Bitwig since 2015 -- I'm not eligible for an update? The one year of updates applies only to people buying the software from now on?
The page about the new model isn't all that clear about what it means for existing customers. I've moved entirely over to using Bitwig since 2015 -- I'm not eligible for an update? The one year of updates applies only to people buying the software from now on?
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 1 Nov, 2012 from Berlin
It is important to note that it is not a yearly fee or subscription!lataille wrote:This is just ridiculous though, honestly.
With as much time as I've invested into this program, I never would have even considered it to begin with if I knew there was going to be a yearly fee slapped onto it. I can't even begin to describe how stupid of an idea this is.
You buy a full license, and on top of that you get 12 months of free upgrades, even if those are major version number upgrades. After those 12 months, you get to keep you license and you can use it as long as you want and renew your license if we introduce a feature you are interested in.
Cheers,
Dom
