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In bitwig I have pops and clicks with a big project
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crazyfiltertweaker crazyfiltertweaker https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=277536
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 918 posts since 25 Mar, 2012
I have one major problem:
If my song progression goes further and further, the clicks and pops are getting more and more. They are annoying, but after bounces they go away....
It is not because of my workstation, because it has 32 bit RAM and 6 cores, each 3.6 Gbytes.
It is not because latency, because I have 512 samples with a good audio interface and I use Bitwig on two different systems.
The problem is, they are just occurin g in bitwig, they are not occuring in other DAWs I use/I try....
Maybe someone has a solution or explanation?
If my song progression goes further and further, the clicks and pops are getting more and more. They are annoying, but after bounces they go away....
It is not because of my workstation, because it has 32 bit RAM and 6 cores, each 3.6 Gbytes.
It is not because latency, because I have 512 samples with a good audio interface and I use Bitwig on two different systems.
The problem is, they are just occurin g in bitwig, they are not occuring in other DAWs I use/I try....
Maybe someone has a solution or explanation?
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- KVRist
- 39 posts since 4 Aug, 2015 from U.S.
I think that's just how Bitwig is. I have 4 DAWs installed on my PC and Bitwig starts choking way sooner than other DAWs. I use amp sims and they use a ton of CPU with the oversampling cranked up and Bitwig just cannot handle them well at all.
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- KVRAF
- 1548 posts since 14 Feb, 2010
Same here cracks and pops... sounds like "buffer/glitchy" sound FX or something.
Sometimes i think it happens when zooming, but then again it happens on start or when im just listening.
Cant get a grip on it...
Edit: sometimes nothing at all.. Maybe a pluginn , but damn wich one?
Sometimes i think it happens when zooming, but then again it happens on start or when im just listening.
Cant get a grip on it...
Edit: sometimes nothing at all.. Maybe a pluginn , but damn wich one?
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crazyfiltertweaker crazyfiltertweaker https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=277536
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 918 posts since 25 Mar, 2012
even with 20-30 tracks with many effects and automations I havent these noises with other DAWs...
And it is not my setup or system, because it also happens with my laptop which has a completely different setup.
And it is not my setup or system, because it also happens with my laptop which has a completely different setup.
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 12 Nov, 2015
Can anyone that has these problems attest if the GUI turns into a laggy mess when bitwig surpasses 60% in cpu usage? I am wondering if its just me even though I tried it in 3 different machines already.
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- KVRist
- 99 posts since 30 Mar, 2005
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BlackStarMuzic BlackStarMuzic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=389903
- KVRist
- 34 posts since 9 Dec, 2016
crazyfiltertweaker wrote:I have one major problem:
If my song progression goes further and further, the clicks and pops are getting more and more. They are annoying, but after bounces they go away....
It is not because of my workstation, because it has 32 bit RAM and 6 cores, each 3.6 Gbytes.
It is not because latency, because I have 512 samples with a good audio interface and I use Bitwig on two different systems.
The problem is, they are just occurin g in bitwig, they are not occuring in other DAWs I use/I try....
Maybe someone has a solution or explanation?
A overclock to 4 Ghz might help you, You get pops due to A. Software B. Processor Not being fast enough to keep up no matter the gigahertz C. Hard drive speed. The other outlierI background tasks on your operating system which is usually a big cause. You can always try increasing your sample rate to find out! like 1024 or more to test.
These are all personal experience though over the years, so they might not help.
- KVRian
- 730 posts since 11 Jun, 2015 from Sweden
If you are working with audio files and tracks make sure the micro fade ins and outs are checked.
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- KVRist
- 52 posts since 28 Aug, 2016
I've actually noticed these pops, clicks, even at 20-40% cpu.
I believe it's the graphics card. It doesn't work well with audio. Sometimes, I rr the pc and everything is alright.
Could be bad GRAM processing, or something that causes crap to pile up it glitches audio. Speculating here.
Edit; i have i7 skylake cpu, 16gb ddr4 ram and nvidia gtx950m, SSDs
I believe it's the graphics card. It doesn't work well with audio. Sometimes, I rr the pc and everything is alright.
Could be bad GRAM processing, or something that causes crap to pile up it glitches audio. Speculating here.
Edit; i have i7 skylake cpu, 16gb ddr4 ram and nvidia gtx950m, SSDs
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- KVRist
- 118 posts since 12 Nov, 2015
aquilyzer wrote:What OS do you use? Windows != Max != Linux...
Windows 10 are giving me the same problem. Tried running large projects on 3 different computers. CPU's are insanely fast (6900k/6700k/xeon 2687) with the same results every time.. When I get over 50-60% constant dsp the gui starts lagging and shortly after the clicks and pops appear.
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Strangeflow100 Strangeflow100 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=390184
- KVRer
- 20 posts since 13 Dec, 2016
For me Setting Processor Scheduling to ‘Background Services’ made a big difference. This is on Windows 10.
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- KVRist
- 487 posts since 19 Jan, 2003
I don't know about this specific situation, but another general tip for Windows which is pretty well known but that maybe some people don't know about is to set your power plan to High Performance when running Bitwig (or any DAW or audio software).
It tells the CPU to run at its maximum speed all the time, rather than trying to slow down and speed up based on load. That helps reduce clicks a lot in many situations.
Obviously if you are using a laptop on battery power maybe it's not such a good idea.
It tells the CPU to run at its maximum speed all the time, rather than trying to slow down and speed up based on load. That helps reduce clicks a lot in many situations.
Obviously if you are using a laptop on battery power maybe it's not such a good idea.
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Andrei Marchenko Andrei Marchenko https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=312360
- KVRian
- 800 posts since 12 Sep, 2013
Constantly have the same issue with CPU in Bitwig. For example in Reaper everything works like it should.
In Reaper i have a project with 6 Reaktors, 6 Redux samplers and 5 channels with FX - not even little hint about CPU spikes, noises an crackles. In Bitwig i will see CPU spikes after 4 Reaktors.
I guess that something really wrong in Bitwig's sound engine core because before they re-wrote engine everything worked very well. I mean if in Reaper i have no problem on my machine and in Bitwig i have problems - problem in Bitwig, not in my machine.
About interface: It coded in Java. This is the answer. JVM can't work as fast as C++ coded software.
I'm on OS X.
In Reaper i have a project with 6 Reaktors, 6 Redux samplers and 5 channels with FX - not even little hint about CPU spikes, noises an crackles. In Bitwig i will see CPU spikes after 4 Reaktors.
I guess that something really wrong in Bitwig's sound engine core because before they re-wrote engine everything worked very well. I mean if in Reaper i have no problem on my machine and in Bitwig i have problems - problem in Bitwig, not in my machine.
About interface: It coded in Java. This is the answer. JVM can't work as fast as C++ coded software.
I'm on OS X.
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- KVRAF
- 1996 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
Crackles usually mean the buffer is running dry. This could be Bitwig's audio engine, what's feeding the engine, particular VSTs, that is, anything in the audio chain, or the driver. Just increase the buffer size until it disappears. If the latency gets too high to record, you don't have a lot of choice but to turn off some stuff. In rare cases, it could be CPU overload, but you'd have to be running some heavy-duty stuff.
Bitwig is modular in it's routing, which I'm guessing does introduce some lag and the I also guess that the further you nest things, the more nanoseconds you'll lose.
Just thoughts. I don't find Bitwig much worse than others, but I'm in the habit of keeping things slim from the old days.
Bitwig is modular in it's routing, which I'm guessing does introduce some lag and the I also guess that the further you nest things, the more nanoseconds you'll lose.
Just thoughts. I don't find Bitwig much worse than others, but I'm in the habit of keeping things slim from the old days.