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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:18 pm

https://www.steinberg.net/en/products/v ... nic_3.html

What is new in HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3?

While the new sound design features are exclusively available in HALion 6, the new instruments libraries can be found in both HALion 6 and HALion Sonic 3.

-Next-generation wavetable synthesis
-Macro Page Designer
-HALion live-sampling
-HALion scripting
-Library Creator

-The Eagle Grand
-The Raven Grand
-Hot Brass
-Studio Strings
-Anima (2xOSC wavetable synth)
-Skylab (Granular synth)
-New Combi Library
-New effects

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:56 pm

the voiceover in the vids is effin annoying.

also brass and strings instruments sound like a joke.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:01 pm

WOW. First came Falcon, now HALion. The future of sampling synthesis never shined so bright

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:02 pm

...but the next generationl wave table functions seems impressive

Could it make Serum become redundant?

And the scripting abilities, could it take on Falcon for a match ?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:12 pm

Looks like HALion Script is Lua, so same as Falcon...

Designing macro pages looks really great, even better than in Falcon - much more flexible. This should be a great creativity boost for content designers.

Question is - how CPU efficient is it compared to Kontakt?

P.S.: And wow, it actually samples!

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:19 pm

On initial release, does Steinberg usually or never offer a reduced price?

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:22 pm

Halion 5 is great but obviously doesn't have the same support as Kontakt. I am sure Simon will chime in with specifics.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:24 pm

wagtunes wrote:On initial release, does Steinberg usually or never offer a reduced price?

They usually do grace periods if you purchase previous version in the vicinity of the newer version release. Then you get the newer version for free.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:26 pm

EvilDragon wrote: P.S.: And wow, it actually samples!

Yep... and it has an editor. Look forward to see how far the editor goes. I always wanted to be able to edit samples inside the sampler. Loop tools, especially would be really welcomed

(I know, I know, I'm an old fashion guy, who still cares about looping the samples).

memyselfandus · Post by **memyselfandus** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:38 pm

-HALion live-sampling

A sampler that samples. It's about time. Cool

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:38 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
wagtunes wrote:On initial release, does Steinberg usually or never offer a reduced price?
They usually do grace periods if you purchase previous version in the vicinity of the newer version release. Then you get the newer version for free.

Ah okay, so if you are a first time buyer and don't have HALion 5 at all, you're paying full price. Or, IOW, they just don't run sales.

Got it.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:43 pm

They mention resynthesis with the wavetable stuff. I wonder how deep this is and how long of samples can be used.

PAK · Post by **PAK** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:05 pm

wagtunes wrote:Ah okay, so if you are a first time buyer and don't have HALion 5 at all, you're paying full price. Or, IOW, they just don't run sales.

They do, but the timing of them is somewhat unpredictable. Crossgrade offers (from other companies products) are also common, though I'm not sure if they've ever done any for HALion.

The other main way is academic versions, which tend to be around the same price as their best sales prices..

BTW Sample editing in samplers usually always sucks Vs any half-decent dedicated editor. Would be a pleasant surprise if they actually break that trend.

I'll upgrade, but it's mostly for the Wavetable stuff (Still no FM, Steinberg?) Without that I probably wouldn't have bothered, though the GUI construction thing does look interesting too.

Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:10 pm

wagtunes wrote:Ah okay, so if you are a first time buyer and don't have HALion 5 at all, you're paying full price. Or, IOW, they just don't run sales.

You will also need to buy the Steinberg eLicenser dongle, if you haven't already got it.

I would advice against using the soft eLicenser as you can't move a product between computers then. Your stuck with it on the one you install it on, and it will take some effort to be able to move it to another computer if needed later.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:19 pm

Numanoid wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Ah okay, so if you are a first time buyer and don't have HALion 5 at all, you're paying full price. Or, IOW, they just don't run sales.
You will also need to buy the Steinberg eLicenser dongle, if you haven't already got it.

I would advice against using the soft eLicenser as you can't move a product between computers then. Your stuck with it on the one you install it on, and it will take some effort to be able to move it to another computer if needed later.

That's not a problem. I already own and use Cubase as my main DAW and I use the dongle to store my license. But I've been waiting for HALion 5 to go on sale now for at least a year and it never did, unless I just missed it. In fact, since I've owned Cubase (2013) I don't recall Steinberg ever running a sale on anything. So I'm certainly not going to hold my breath on this one.

Steinberg HALion 6 & HALion Sonic 3