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She's got that Sparkle

CTO
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Postby CTO; Sat May 13, 2017 6:05 pm She's got that Sparkle

Dear forum members

thanks so much for all your feedback on the last tune (plasm), lots of ideas and suggestions i got from different forums made it into the new tune...
so here it is, i hope you find it as sparkin' as i do!

https://soundcloud.com/cto-7/cto-feat-sibyl-hofstetter-shes-got-that-sparkle

The Vocals are doubled - but Sibyl sings so precisely that it almost kind of a flanging effect to it if you listen in mono... don't know if this is good or not (?)

feedback is highly appreciated!
thanks for checking it out

<3
theo
Chickenman
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Postby Chickenman; Sat May 13, 2017 6:51 pm Re: She's got that Sparkle

Is it all virtual instruments/loops?

Sounds great anyway, especially love the odd little bass variation, makes a difference.


Needs a guitar solo :D
I play guitar
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Aloysius
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Postby Aloysius; Sat May 13, 2017 8:21 pm Re: She's got that Sparkle

Cool bassline. Awesome imho.

I like her voice a lot but not the processing. The word 'mystery' sounds like 'miss-toe-e'. There are annoying mouth noises here and there.

Would have liked to hear a bigger, deeper monster kick drum. Warm sound ... not distorted.
Otherwise, I really enjoyed it. I listened twice. :phones:
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seismic1
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Postby seismic1; Wed May 17, 2017 4:56 pm Re: She's got that Sparkle

It's a great follow-up to Plasm. I wasn't sure about the sound of the vocals (from a recording perspective) during the first listen, but after a couple more listens, I think they're fine. I really liked the bridge section after the second chorus.

Good work :)
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annode
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Postby annode; Wed May 17, 2017 5:55 pm Re: She's got that Sparkle

Didn't care for the song and even less the mix...but that bridge @ 2:00 was excellent!
The bridge showed real writing creativity...where was that in the rest of this song?
I heard an interview with Quincy Jones just tonight and he said they went through 200 songs/ideas or some number like that, before choosing the 8 or so songs on the Michael Jackson 'Thriller' lp. So...if you can come up with a bridge like that, it's just a matter of quantity before you amass some really excellent songs.
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Vortifex
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Postby Vortifex; Thu May 18, 2017 6:31 am Re: She's got that Sparkle

That's a really nice track. But there's something about the way the vocals have been mixed that I don't like. It feels like they sort of sit on top of the music rather than being a part of it, if that makes sense. They're too prominent, and need to gel a little bit more with the rest of the mix. Just my personal opinion.
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donkey tugger
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Postby donkey tugger; Fri May 19, 2017 9:04 am Re: She's got that Sparkle

annode wrote:but that bridge @ 2:00 was excellent!


Yes, should be the chorus! Too good to only use once.

I'm trying to work out what's a bit 'off' about the vocals (usually many things when I sing...). I think having them panned hard left and right is a bit distracting as we're more used to hearing them from the centre (although it is of course a well used technique). Is there a lot of wideband de-essing on them (or similar) as sometimes there seems to me to be quite a drop in high-frequency?
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annode
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Postby annode; Fri May 19, 2017 2:50 pm Re: She's got that Sparkle

Donkey speaketh;
I'm trying to work out what's a bit 'off' about the vocals

I'm thinking the two vocals are out of time just so slightly it's like a static flange out of phase situation. It could be a 'comb filtering effect'.
Read this: http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advic ... -filtering
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CTO
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Postby CTO; Mon May 22, 2017 11:30 am Re: She's got that Sparkle

hey
sorry, somehow forgot about the post here, that's why i'm a bit late with answers ;)


Chickenman wrote:Is it all virtual instruments/loops?

Sounds great anyway, especially love the odd little bass variation, makes a difference.


Needs a guitar solo :D


Thanks! The Bass, the (little) Guitar and the vocals of course are played live. The Rhodes is NI, the beat(s) is sampled and sliced.
Not every song needs a guitar solo, but the next one will have one again :)



Aloysius wrote:Cool bassline. Awesome imho.

I like her voice a lot but not the processing. The word 'mystery' sounds like 'miss-toe-e'. There are annoying mouth noises here and there.

Would have liked to hear a bigger, deeper monster kick drum. Warm sound ... not distorted.
Otherwise, I really enjoyed it. I listened twice. :phones:


Thanks for your Feedback! There were lot's of esses going on, so i C6'd in the upper midrange. Maybe too much... If i'll remix i would make the voice a bit smaller (maybe 2 db).


annode wrote:Didn't care for the song and even less the mix...but that bridge @ 2:00 was excellent!
The bridge showed real writing creativity...where was that in the rest of this song?
I heard an interview with Quincy Jones just tonight and he said they went through 200 songs/ideas or some number like that, before choosing the 8 or so songs on the Michael Jackson 'Thriller' lp. So...if you can come up with a bridge like that, it's just a matter of quantity before you amass some really excellent songs.


thanks! ;) nice one - until I have 200 Songs it will take a while ;) Right now I write maybe one song a month - so in 10 years i'll be there ;) but hey, time passes quickly :wink:


annode wrote:Donkey speaketh;
I'm trying to work out what's a bit 'off' about the vocals

I'm thinking the two vocals are out of time just so slightly it's like a static flange out of phase situation. It could be a 'comb filtering effect'.
Read this: http://www.soundonsound.com/sound-advic ... -filtering


It's actually 2 different takes, but they are so close that you hear phasing in mono. If you listen on a normal stereo or headphones it's ok, but if the speakers are close (mobile phone, laptop or any mono speaker) there are phase issues going on. I forgot to check the mono compatibility in the studio...

donkey tugger wrote:
annode wrote:but that bridge @ 2:00 was excellent!


Yes, should be the chorus! Too good to only use once.

I'm trying to work out what's a bit 'off' about the vocals (usually many things when I sing...). I think having them panned hard left and right is a bit distracting as we're more used to hearing them from the centre (although it is of course a well used technique). Is there a lot of wideband de-essing on them (or similar) as sometimes there seems to me to be quite a drop in high-frequency?


You're right, I had to de-ess a lot to make it sound ok - and that cuts away also the highs.
The singer sings quite soft, so I think this makes the more esses compared to a loud singer?
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Aloysius
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Postby Aloysius; Mon May 22, 2017 11:45 am Re: She's got that Sparkle

This might help.

Google: Tips for controlling microphone sibliance

https://www.google.ie/search?q=micropho ... +sibliance

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