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Glue Function

GAMJoker
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10 posts since 19 Oct, 2016

Postby GAMJoker; Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:45 am Glue Function

Hello guys,

I still don't really get the glue function. What is it for? Because if it's just to consolidate things, it doesn't work for me.


When I import a MIDI file and disable "Auto Detect Phrases", it all comes in one part, tuned to the actual key.

If I import a Midi file and enable "Auto Detect Phrases", it comes in split sections, also tuned to the actual key.
But if I select now all of the seperate sections and glue them together, they become one part, but they change to (I believe) their original key again, so they sound totally out of tune then...

So is this a bug or do I just misunderstand the glue function? Is there a function to consolidate seperate parts, without changing the notes in any way?

Thanks :)
musicdevelopments
KVRAF
 
2026 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Postby musicdevelopments; Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:52 am Re: Glue Function

Hello GAMJoker,

Gluing should work as you would expect. I tried importing MIDI and gluing all phrases but notes did not change.
If you could send me a composition file that shows this behaviour, I would love to investigate why notes change.
There are cases when notes will change (but I think this cannot happen when importing MIDI):
- when you use different octaves for chords (e.g. C4 followed by G5)
- when one or more phrases are transposed and glued to a non-transposed phrase
You can get perfect results if you make the phrases absolute (press 'A'), glue them, and convert the glued phrase to 'relative' (press '3' for chord note+scale steps). This means 2 additional key-presses but will always work.

Thanks!
Attila
http://www.musicdevelopments.com
Music Prototyping And Automated Composition Solutions
BluGenes
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46 posts since 15 May, 2017

Postby BluGenes; Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:00 am Re: Glue Function

I just noticed this function.. and this could be very useful for me.. ;) I noticed that when I import, it breaks the phase into multi parts, and yes, I know about the option in the import side to disable this and all. My question is, were is the function to split the phrase at the bar? I know it exists, lol, I saw it, but, can't seem to find it again.. The import sometimes will bring in the phrase over lapping each other.. I'd like to join them back, then split them in the proper length.. at the bars..

EDIT:
Oops, ignore this post.. I found it in the settings, I haven't assigned it yet..
musicdevelopments
KVRAF
 
2026 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Postby musicdevelopments; Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:11 am Re: Glue Function

If you don't want to use shortcuts, you can find Split Phrases At Chord Boundaries and Split Phrases At Bar Boundaries in the timeline inspector. This may not sound logical but these work on all tracks and all phrases, not just on the selection.

Thanks,
Attila
http://www.musicdevelopments.com
Music Prototyping And Automated Composition Solutions
GAMJoker
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10 posts since 19 Oct, 2016

Postby GAMJoker; Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:45 am Re: Glue Function

Maybe this video helps you to understand my problem :)
https://youtu.be/wbHbMTMg7dY
GAMJoker
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10 posts since 19 Oct, 2016

Postby GAMJoker; Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:56 am Re: Glue Function

Oh yeah btw. :P
I tried to press "A", then glued them together, then pressed 3.
It's different, but different weired :D Still sounds pretty out of key ;)

Regards

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