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zoogoo
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Postby zoogoo; Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:32 pm ASIOALL alternative?

Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?

is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?

thanks
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fmr
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Postby fmr; Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:48 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Buy an audio interface with true ASIO drivers. It's the best solution. Anything else is just a waste of time.
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Postby THE INTRANCER; Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:51 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

Why are you not using an audio interface with it's dedicated ASIO drivers ? Also running multiple instances of a daw, isn't generally recommended or to be practical, and it typically isn't even possible with most modern daws.
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fluffy_little_something
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:55 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

I guess the problem is having several instances of ASIO4ALL running at the same time. In my case Imitone and my DAW at the same time doesn't work well.

That said, as long as I use ASIO4ALL only with my DAW, it seems very robust, no problems at all.
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WOK
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Postby WOK; Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:10 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks

Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....
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VariKusBrainZ
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:13 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

WOK wrote:
zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks

Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....



Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.
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Postby Image-Line; Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:08 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?

is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?

thanks


Install FL Studio, and try FL Studio ASIO.

https://www.image-line.com/downloads/fl ... nload.html

After installing FL Studio it should show as a driver option in energyXT. Its multi-client, so should be good for multiple instances. Manually delete the FL Studio install folder when you are done.

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Postby zoogoo; Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:10 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

i have an m-audio 1010lt pci. its a good card but i cant run more then 1 daw at a time. with the asioall, it allows you to merge sound drivers , but it doesnt work well, crashes a lot. should i try installing a second pci card? i actually do have an extra.

what now folks?
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Postby fmr; Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:16 am Re: ASIOALL alternative?

You still didn't explain why do you want several instances of EnergyXT open. What exactly is your workflow, and what do you need that for?
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fluffy_little_something
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:08 am Re: ASIOALL alternative?

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
WOK wrote:
zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks

Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....



Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.


The driver determines the settings the hardware uses, right? So how can one and the same hardware use two different, say, sampling rates at the same time if two applications are set up like that?
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thecontrolcentre
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Postby thecontrolcentre; Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:28 am Re: ASIOALL alternative?

I'm using the NI audio driver with my interface. It allows me to run Live and Sound Forge at the same time. I sometimes run a media player alongside my CD writing software too.
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VariKusBrainZ
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:03 am Re: ASIOALL alternative?

fluffy_little_something wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
WOK wrote:
zoogoo wrote:Im using energyxt which can open up in several instances. Ive been having a problem with ASIOALL? its very buggy and sometimes works, ive troubleshooted several things with little luck?
is there an alternative newer program that might work a little better before i try to spend anymore time getting this to work?
thanks

Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....



Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.


The driver determines the settings the hardware uses, right? So how can one and the same hardware use two different, say, sampling rates at the same time if two applications are set up like that?

They cant, must be same sample rate and buffer
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fluffy_little_something
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:06 am Re: ASIOALL alternative?

OK, so maybe the problems would go away if all instances used identical settings :)
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WOK
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Postby WOK; Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:58 pm Re: ASIOALL alternative?

VariKusBrainZ wrote:
WOK wrote:Asio in general doesn't support multi-access by different programs at the same time.....
Not true, many soundcard drivers offer multi client access.
RME for one has offered it for a long time.

Yes, i remembered wrong. Must be "most vendors drivers don't allow multi client access".
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