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soulkraka
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:28 pm reply with quote
anyone tried the pluggo demo using FL as a host?

Doesnt work at all here. Crashes FL everytime.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:31 am reply with quote
Hi,
Just installed the demo. I haven't tried them all, some 'worked' eg, Chamberverb, Cyclotron, Phaseshifter, Bassline, Analog Drums. The output was constantly distorted, (and I don't mean the demo noise) the ones that loaded are completely unusable for me, the others crashed FLS to desktop.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:56 am reply with quote
Does Fruity Loops natively support VST now? or is it still through an adaptor? I know that on the mac side, Pluggo runs a shell for AU support, works pretty well but a few pluggo plug ins don't pass AU validation...

Too bad to hear that it's not working, I'm a HUGE fan of Pluggo, in fact back when Logic was PC and I first switched to it, I almost got a PC, but decided not to because Pluggo wasn't out for PC.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:58 am reply with quote
Someone at the FL-Board posted that you
have to activate "Use fixed size buffers" on the FL wrapper

works fine now Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:07 am reply with quote
I was this close to springing for it too!

good thing I DL'ed the demo to try it first Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:16 am reply with quote
Shit, I just wrote a really long post here then the power momentarily died Mad

I'll reduce it to the essential bits... not an FL user... installed demo... thought it was going to be shit... wasn't shit... nearly bought it... PACE... OIC.

edit: Ok, I'll expand a bit Laughing

The main thing was, from reading the descriptions of each plug on the site when it was Mac only, I thought for each one "this has been done better". On actually using it however, even the traditional stuff like distortions sound like nothing else. That's before you even get to the weird filter/granular stuff Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:30 am reply with quote
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Someone at the FL-Board posted that you have to activate "Use fixed size buffers" on the FL wrapper


Yes, I did.. Wink

Anyway,

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works fine now :Wink:


If it sounds very cool, it crashes FLS quite often..

As someone replied in the FL board, MAX-MSP was very unstable on windows at first, but C74 rapidly fixed the problems... Any confirmations on this ? (I don't use MAX)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 2:37 am reply with quote
I didn't realise the demo was out - must try this - on my wish list.

It's not PACE is it??
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:29 am reply with quote
aMUSEd wrote:
I didn't realise the demo was out - must try this - on my wish list.

It's not PACE is it??


yes, it's definitely pace
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 9:41 am reply with quote
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If it sounds very cool, it crashes FLS quite often..


Cheers! Sorry to hear about the crashing. Let us know if it's something you can reproduce and we'll try and get it fixed....

Fruity Loops requires fixed buffers for Pluggo - as was mentioned earlier

This is in the FAQ...

After inserting a Pluggo effect, click the arrow to open the drop down menu below the Plug UI Caption (title bar) and enable the "Use fixed size buffers" option. In Fruityloops Studio, you need to enable this each time you insert a Pluggo plug-in.

We are working on ways to "eliminate this dependency."

-Andrew

Windows support guy at C74 ( winsupport at cycling74 dot com )
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:20 am reply with quote
So what´s with that distorted noise most of the synths are making? The FX I´ve tried seem ok. I get this in both Cubase SX 2.2.0.39 and Orion Platinum 5.8. Help

Running on:

Athlon XP 3000+
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1GB DDR PC2700
EMU 1212m
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:34 am reply with quote
DMuzik wrote:
So what´s with that distorted noise most of the synths are making? The FX I´ve tried seem ok. I get this in both Cubase SX 2.2.0.39 and Orion Platinum 5.8. Help

Running on:

Athlon XP 3000+
Epox 8RDA+
1GB DDR PC2700
EMU 1212m


It's not the noise burst you get every minute is it? That's another thing I wrote in my post before the power died. Even the demo restriction bursts of noise are unusually funky. Ner-ner-nermer-ner ner-ner-nermer-mer Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:40 am reply with quote
Nope, it´s not a noise burst... it´s constant. Sad
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:21 am reply with quote
orion took a very long time to start up after I installed pluggo
so long in fact that it gave me time to think 'do I really need a boatload of pluggo vst's after finding so many good plug-ins elsewhere in the past few years?'

at which point I stopped the process and uninstalled pluggo
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:34 am reply with quote
DMuzik wrote:
So what´s with that distorted noise most of the synths are making? The FX I´ve tried seem ok. I get this in both Cubase SX 2.2.0.39 and Orion Platinum 5.8.


I can confirm this distortion (Samplitude Pro V8 and FL-Studio). All Synths with a Filter produce distortion. Changing Filter-Values changes the distortion.
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