CZ-101 VSTi - -Cancelled

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18682 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England

Post Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:10 am

i need some testers for the new KZ-101 synth, a 'copy' of the Casio CZ-101. If you have an original to compare sound/performance with that would be very cool



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its as close as i can get at the moment, but i really need ppl who have experienc of the hardware synth to try it and seee how it copmares.

email me or PM me here for the .dll. I also have a sysex editor that will allow you to copy original sounds over by hand, but it does take a long feckin time :hihi:

its huge and doesnt look pretty, but to get all those controls on it has to be for now.

Dave


kriminal [at] kara-moon [dot] com
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KVRAF
2475 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY

Post Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:03 pm

Hey Krim, I can't A/B it with a 101 but I've got a CZ5000...pretty similar I think.

Feel free to e-mail me the .dll:

stonetree1@hotmail.com

Cheers.....CL :oops:
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18682 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:00 am

mail sent, cheers!

KVRAF
5282 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:28 am

pm sent

KVRAF
7547 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:43 am

I have a CZ-101, but no time to test. :cry:

Edit: Krim, I seem to remember that our babies were born just about the same time. How the hell do you find time to develop VSTs?? :shock: Of course, I did have a second kid last November... I'm still just trying to get a good 6 hours sleep! :help:
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.

KVRist
103 posts since 5 Mar, 2004

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:59 am

Not having tested it yet, let me say that it would be a good idea, perhaps for a later enhancement, to aim for the CZ-1 instead, which is virtually identical, but adds velocity sensitivity (I have one of those).

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KVRist
352 posts since 31 Mar, 2002 from Europe

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:27 am

I guess I've some experience with the hardware, check my CZ-1 only demo ;)

http://musik.freepage.de/summa/LovetheCZ.mp3
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KVRian
1186 posts since 24 May, 2006 from Our Amazing Oasis in Space - USA Section

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:21 am

GatoKonBotas wrote:Not having tested it yet, let me say that it would be a good idea, perhaps for a later enhancement, to aim for the CZ-1 instead, which is virtually identical, but adds velocity sensitivity (I have one of those).
I agree! The 101/1000 is a fine start, but why stop there. A hybrid of all the programmable CZs (sequencer, velocity, aftertouch) wouldn't be too difficult once you have the basics of the 101/1000, or so it would seem. But the 101/1000 has yet to be wrapped up, right now. :)

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KVRist
352 posts since 31 Mar, 2002 from Europe

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:09 pm

Well, he has to get the basics right first, by the way the GUI looks, I'd estimate he got the ringmod wrong, otherwise it wouldn't need an amount ;)
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KVRist
135 posts since 26 Aug, 2006

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:12 pm

That's true. Ring Mod, Oscillator Mix and Noise mod are all one-button On/Off functions on the original. :wink:
AFAIK the CZ-101 doesn't have programmable LFO's or a chorus too.

Good effort, though! :)

KVRAF
2475 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Central NY

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:43 pm

Kriminal wrote:mail sent, cheers!
Groovy!! 8) I'm on the road right now....should be back
home Tues or Wed. I'll give it go as soon as we get back.

Cheers.....CL :oops:
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KVRist
352 posts since 31 Mar, 2002 from Europe

Post Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:37 pm

Kai VejaR wrote:That's true. Ring Mod, Oscillator Mix and Noise mod are all one-button On/Off functions on the original. :wink:
AFAIK the CZ-101 doesn't have programmable LFO's or a chorus too.

Good effort, though! :)
A level for ringmod is not needed on the original synth, since the amount can be adjusted with the help of DCA2 envelope...
A formant is a preferred resonating frequency of any acoustical system.

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18682 posts since 2 Oct, 2001 from England

Post Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:54 am

Kai VejaR wrote:That's true. Ring Mod, Oscillator Mix and Noise mod are all one-button On/Off functions on the original. :wink:
AFAIK the CZ-101 doesn't have programmable LFO's or a chorus too.

Good effort, though! :)
the original had an LFO that was only used for vibrato, but i dont see why i should have to limit it just to be accurate to that. I can expand it to whatever really, but im trying to keep it as close as possible to original with a little more flexibility.


as i said, im not really sure how to do the ringmod or noise mode, but i have found a casionoise module i can look into. Im sure i can change the ringmod to on off too if i look into it. Right now i have to try and sort the rate/levels, they seem to be timed wrong to the original, accoriding to another tester....

thanks for the info, dont be shy, its all good ;)

Dave

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KVRist
352 posts since 31 Mar, 2002 from Europe

Post Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:20 am

I wouldn't have mentioned it, but the control of the RM amount by DCA2 is important for the more interesting CZ Sounds. While RM is set to on, DCA1 is responsible for the overall volume while DAC2 is controlling the RM Amount and DCO2 is only audiable as part of the Ringmod...
A formant is a preferred resonating frequency of any acoustical system.

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KVRist
322 posts since 10 Jul, 2002 from About 3 feet below sea level

Post Mon Aug 06, 2007 4:55 am

Sorry for the delay in responding Kriminal, I've only been able to spend a short time with it in between musical projects I'm working on. As you've mentioned, the Rate/Level parameters are not quite right yet, they don't seem to be as 'responsive' as the original.

Also, I'm getting a massive CPU hit fluctuating between 64-100% even when idling on my 2.54gHz machine. (Admittedly I'm using an older version of Orion, but I'm not one of those people who upgrades his Host every week, although an upgrade is due in the next couple of months.)

Respect to you for giving it a go and I hope you'll continue to tweak it. I'll be happy to continue testing any updated versions you do. :-)

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