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dacaumodo · Post by **dacaumodo** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:36 pm

Thanks Thoshu.

thoshu · Post by **thoshu** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:20 pm

It's stil some money but worth it.

Good Luck!

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:51 pm

i wont be able to upgrade from reaktor session to reaktor 5 for a long time,as theres some other soft/hardware i want first,but still theres alot of great beat-mangling ensembles for reaktor session in the user-library,they can just be hard to find

iain_morland · Post by **iain_morland** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:56 pm

Hm, I too am v impressed by the sound-generating ensembles in the demo, and about twice a year come v close to buying Reaktor.

Then I always re-read the reviews here (http://www.kvraudio.com/get/54.html) and remind myself that I'd probably tinker endlessly without creating anything musically interesting. It's hard enough with something as relatively simple as Absynth!

That's not to ignore the fact that some people make amazing music with Reaktor, but I think you need to be as much a programmer as a musician to get the most out of it.

Good luck tho...

JerGoertz · Post by **JerGoertz** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:57 pm

Bookmark'd.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:15 pm

dacaumodo wrote:Still looking for time-evolving noise generators here.

Atomic Cloud
Collide And Play
GLiKO

Spiggy · Post by **Spiggy** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:02 am

dacaumodo wrote:Still looking for time-evolving noise generators here.

Here's another couple:

http://www.servovalve.org/machines/index.html

HTH

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:26 am

iain_morland wrote:Hm, I too am v impressed by the sound-generating ensembles in the demo, and about twice a year come v close to buying Reaktor.

Then I always re-read the reviews here (http://www.kvraudio.com/get/54.html) and remind myself that I'd probably tinker endlessly without creating anything musically interesting. It's hard enough with something as relatively simple as Absynth!

That's not to ignore the fact that some people make amazing music with Reaktor, but I think you need to be as much a programmer as a musician to get the most out of it.

Good luck tho...

There's plenty of good resources around and over 2,000 ensembles.I was blown away by the sound generators in the R5 demo.In other words there's plenty of stuff to keep you busy while you dig into the modular environment.I've built a couple of synths,created some snapshots,started a set in live and i'm just recording stuff from my emx to load up in reaktors samplers and mangle

I read those reviews too but my experience so far has been really good,no probs here..

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:18 am

the only thing i think i could need some more of for reaktor SESSION is some more live machines,i cant seem to find some in the user-library that works with this ancient software

iain_morland · Post by **iain_morland** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:48 am

musikmachine wrote:
iain_morland wrote:Hm, I too am v impressed by the sound-generating ensembles in the demo, and about twice a year come v close to buying Reaktor.

Then I always re-read the reviews here (http://www.kvraudio.com/get/54.html) and remind myself that I'd probably tinker endlessly without creating anything musically interesting. It's hard enough with something as relatively simple as Absynth!

That's not to ignore the fact that some people make amazing music with Reaktor, but I think you need to be as much a programmer as a musician to get the most out of it.

Good luck tho...
There's plenty of good resources around and over 2,000 ensembles.I was blown away by the sound generators in the R5 demo.In other words there's plenty of stuff to keep you busy while you dig into the modular environment.I've built a couple of synths,created some snapshots,started a set in live and i'm just recording stuff from my emx to load up in reaktors samplers and mangle

I read those reviews too but my experience so far has been really good,no probs here..

Ahhh...."don't tempt me, Frodo".

Must...be strong...and reread the reviews...

*clicks through to the NI shop*

NOOO!

(Seriously, though, thanks for the feedback on your experience.)

Jazzyspoon · Post by **Jazzyspoon** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:14 pm

S-N-S wrote:the only thing i think i could need some more of for reaktor SESSION is some more live machines,i cant seem to find some in the user-library that works with this ancient software

And you won't, unfortunately. Session was discontinued a several years ago and pretty much everything in the library is now R5 with a few r4's (session readable) still available.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:05 pm

iain_morland wrote:
musikmachine wrote:
iain_morland wrote:Hm, I too am v impressed by the sound-generating ensembles in the demo, and about twice a year come v close to buying Reaktor.

Then I always re-read the reviews here (http://www.kvraudio.com/get/54.html) and remind myself that I'd probably tinker endlessly without creating anything musically interesting. It's hard enough with something as relatively simple as Absynth!

That's not to ignore the fact that some people make amazing music with Reaktor, but I think you need to be as much a programmer as a musician to get the most out of it.

Good luck tho...
There's plenty of good resources around and over 2,000 ensembles.I was blown away by the sound generators in the R5 demo.In other words there's plenty of stuff to keep you busy while you dig into the modular environment.I've built a couple of synths,created some snapshots,started a set in live and i'm just recording stuff from my emx to load up in reaktors samplers and mangle

I read those reviews too but my experience so far has been really good,no probs here..
Ahhh...."don't tempt me, Frodo".

Must...be strong...and reread the reviews...

*clicks through to the NI shop*

NOOO!

(Seriously, though, thanks for the feedback on your experience.)

NP.I should say im using version 4 but i have been demoing 5 also and those new instruments are

so i'll be upgrading soon

Get reaktivated

vespers75 · Post by **vespers75** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:41 pm

Spiggy wrote: Here's another couple:

http://www.servovalve.org/machines/index.html

HTH

Nice find! These are great! A bit hard to record, but great

Stairsteps · Post by **Stairsteps** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:04 pm

Reaktor 5 needs no programing needs nothing but draging stuff out of the tool chest and droping it in. you can endlessly tinker with the exsisting synths that they have out of the box. or you can take them apart and retool them into monsters. makeing synths from scratch is just a small part of what reaktor is about. and alot of ppl are put off by the fact that they think its just for synth creation!!!!

For example take one of Reaktors bare bones synths like Equinoxe, which is a simple string synth that comes with like 9 presets. Ok for instance i can quite easly open up the main internal wiring of this synth with just a click. once inside the guts everything is in a neat GUI, its all just clearly labled boxes and wires. Ok to make a simple change with Equinoxe just right click and drag from your toolchest ummm lets try a expander. ok I unwire one of the modules and simply put in the expander and rewire everything back , takes 2 seconds to do.

Ok now I have my own custom built synth as I have taken apart not originally planed for a preexisting synth and made it to my own specs. with little or no trouble at all. And you can just keep dragging and dropping various pieces like mabey a filter or oscilator what ever you do its all done with lightning speed and you can undo undo undo till your eyes fall out.

Thats just a simple experiment that shows you that you need no programing skills no plan no nothing, just a willingness to tinker and drag and drop.

If you dont want to drag and drop or tinker at all then there something else I want to tell you about and thats the RANDOMISER, every synth that comes with Reaktor 5 has a built in randomiser function thats one of the most powerful in the industry.

I have seen alot of synths with random or slot machine instant picks of sounds, some of the better ones are Cameleon and Tera3, But they cant touch the Reaktor5 random feature.

For example you can morph random and merge random which are VERY powerful esp if your looking to get new interesting sounds, albiet not all sounds it makes are useful, but you can never exhaust the random feature of Reaktor5.

So dont be put off by the thought of time comsuming synth programing, to reprogram a existing synth in Reaktor 5 takes 2 seconds and to get new sounds out of synths takes even less time its almost funny.

without a doubt get Reaktor5 if not for anything its fun tinkering and the sound quality is right there with all my top tier Vstis. That include Nexus, Absynth,FM8,Tera3..ect...

Oh fyi: that synth that started with 9 presets now has like 128 presets all of which were made by the random feature and all the new presets sound just as good as any programer whos pulling his hair out to program.

very easy to find a random sound and save it to the soundbank.

thoshu · Post by **thoshu** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:32 pm

Jazzyspoon wrote:
S-N-S wrote:the only thing i think i could need some more of for reaktor SESSION is some more live machines,i cant seem to find some in the user-library that works with this ancient software
And you won't, unfortunately. Session was discontinued a several years ago and pretty much everything in the library is now R5 with a few r4's (session readable) still available.

Did you try the search with "Reaktor 4" - I got 54 entries, by searching Reaktor 4 (w/o those " ") it was more than 2000, which might not work for the most part in R4 or Session, but even the seacrh for "Reaktor 3" revealed 125 entries. So might be worth a try.

Reaktor-like Sound generators?