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Lotuzia
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Post Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:59 pm

pdxindy wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
pdxindy wrote:oh cool... a new XILS synth without a dongle... (been away for a few months) downloading demo...
Welcome back and thanks for trying it Pdxindy :)
There is the joystick that has bend up and down and modwheel to the left... aftertouch is to the right... should say AT I think... not Exp which I would assume is the expression pedal. There are also 2 dedicated EXPR modulators in the modulation section. Those are also AT... I also think those should say AT or Pressure or something. EXPR again sounds like expression pedal.

Is there midi learn?

Also, If I have unison set to 4 and global voices set to 6, 2 notes will play... does one play unison 4 and the other 2? Or does each do 3?


I think I have the grid fairly figured out... but what exactly is happening when I click env2 on the grid page?

Oxium with no notes is using 30% cpu... in Live on OSX 10.6.8... a new instance does not do this but I do not want to delete this instance yet cause I will lose the sound I have at the moment...

Here is a quick example
http://draigathar.org/sounds/Oxium1.mp3
First the easy ones :

1/ Midi learn : for all parameters : Just click on the "open midi settings panel" to display it. Then assign parameters.

2/ Expression : Actually represent the sum of : Mono & Poly aftertouch + Breathcontroler. We did this as we have some users who use breath Midi controlers such as the Akai ones at Xils. So they dont have to repatch each preset to benefit of the modulations assigned to it. As I use a regular Keyboard and an expression pedal, I just map the breath controler to the midi cc4 with my host, so I can get the modulations tied to Expression either with the foot pedal, either with the Monophonic Aftertouch. For those who are lucky enough to have a keyboard that sends polyphonic aftertouch, Oxium reacts to Polyaftertouch also.

3/ For Live, and also MuLab, some users get some GUI issues, while most don't, depending eventually on OS/Versions/etc. We will investigate this. Sorry for that and thanks for the report.

4/ Unisson it depends on the Play mode, if you're on Poly Reset, you will have 4 + 2, in other modes it will vary according to the mode, and you're likely to get combinations of 4+2, 3+3, and more odd things if you play three notes chords, etc. It can lead to some happy accidents and interesting things, though of course the best is probably to set the polyphony to a multiple of the Unisson number of voices to get consistant playing.

5/ Le Masque/ Grid : When you click on the Env(elope)2 (ie filter envelope) on the Grid page the envelope 2 will be retrigered by each Mask LEFT locator. This can lead to very interesting stuff, and you can combine it with the looping possibilities of the env2 to get some really complex stuff.

6/ The sound : Nice one. If you want to retrieve it, you can take some a few caps. Not ideal, just a turnaround.

LtZ
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Howard
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:04 am

Lotuzia wrote:2/ Expression : Actually represent the sum of : Mono & Poly aftertouch + Breathcontroler.
Good idea, and you could even add a user-definable controller (e.g. cc#11) to that sum.

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cyphersuit
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:12 am

pdxindy wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
pdxindy wrote:oh cool... a new XILS synth without a dongle... (been away for a few months) downloading demo...
Oxium with no notes is using 30% cpu... in Live on OSX 10.6.8...
Could be a bug in live!? Sounds like it is taking way too much cpu power.
Finally!

Lotuzia
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:48 am

Howard wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:2/ Expression : Actually represent the sum of : Mono & Poly aftertouch + Breathcontroler.
Good idea, and you could even add a user-definable controller (e.g. cc#11) to that sum.
Thanks Howard, yes the idea is good. It would require people to use CC11. The problem is always the same with very sophisticated features : Will people 1/ Be even aware that these sophisticated functions exist 2/ Will be able to operate them and get really interested in them.

Well using a Daw ( like input xform in Cubase )you can do a lot of really interesting things, in Oxium the base idea is more to offer a ready to use instrument with maximum expression possibilities, while staying the most possibly simple to use.

So powerfull while easy to use, its always a bit like quadrature of the circle problem, so this is our take to try to make things work well without user even noticing it :)
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Lotuzia
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:53 am

cyphersuit wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
pdxindy wrote:oh cool... a new XILS synth without a dongle... (been away for a few months) downloading demo...
Oxium with no notes is using 30% cpu... in Live on OSX 10.6.8...
Could be a bug in live!? Sounds like it is taking way too much cpu power.
Well it seems to be more complicated than that, because it affects only certain users working with Live ( or Mulab) while it works ok for other users. At the beginning we even thought it was a Windows/Live specific problem, but it seems that not.

It seems to be host related, but too much "it seems" : we'll have to investigate this a bit more. Hope it stays usable for Pdxindy, sometimes the GUI takes up too much CPU, but then playing it doesnt take more.

The best is probably to DL the demo and see how it works for you if you're using Live or MuLab.
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pdxindy
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Post Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:42 am

Lotuzia wrote:
2/ Expression : Actually represent the sum of : Mono & Poly aftertouch + Breathcontroler. We did this as we have some users who use breath Midi controlers such as the Akai ones at Xils. So they dont have to repatch each preset to benefit of the modulations assigned to it. As I use a regular Keyboard and an expression pedal, I just map the breath controler to the midi cc4 with my host, so I can get the modulations tied to Expression either with the foot pedal, either with the Monophonic Aftertouch. For those who are lucky enough to have a keyboard that sends polyphonic aftertouch, Oxium reacts to Polyaftertouch also.


LtZ
Nice idea... I like that...

thanks for the replies...

Lotuzia
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Post Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:46 am

First Oxium Video tutorial, about Preset Management system : How to find the right patch for your track in a flash, build a favorite bank, create your custom tag in any criteria main category etc.

+ a superb soundtrack by Nori Ubutaka :love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUB2sf7TJ0o&feature=plcp


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Bob waveman
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Post Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:10 pm

Just bought Oxium! Want to thanks the xils team for this great synth!!!!!
Really amazing sound! :love:

Lotuzia
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Post Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:06 am

Bob waveman wrote:Just bought Oxium! Want to thanks the xils team for this great synth!!!!!
Really amazing sound! :love:
Thanks a lot Bob for your kind words !

Btw its my birthday today, so everybody can buy Oxium for 69€ :)

Unless it is because there's still 7 days before the end of the intro period ... :oops: :-o
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Lotuzia
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:44 am

Another user demo, nicely done. All sounds but the drums by Oxium. By Synthdemo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISDoFEhnj2Q#

Btw Synthdemo has other demos for some other synths on his YT channel, including one for the PolyKB II.
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Ingonator
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:50 am

Lotuzia wrote:Another user demo, nicely done. All sounds but the drums by Oxium. By Synthdemo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISDoFEhnj2Q#

Btw Synthdemo has other demos for some other synths on his YT channel, including one for the PolyKB II.
Nice video indeed. Anyway did you notice that at the beginning of the video Oxium is called "Oxiom"... :wink: :oops:


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pdxindy
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:18 am

Is there a way to add some randomization to a parameter with each note on?

Fritze
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:23 am

Ingonator wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:Another user demo, nicely done. All sounds but the drums by Oxium. By Synthdemo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISDoFEhnj2Q#

Btw Synthdemo has other demos for some other synths on his YT channel, including one for the PolyKB II.
Nice video indeed. Anyway did you notice that at the beginning of the video Oxium is called "Oxiom"... :wink: :oops:


Ingo
Maybe he's from Doitshland? :hihi:

Joke aside: Nice tune with some tasteful sounds! :)

Howard
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3618 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany

Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:17 am

Fritze wrote:Maybe he's from Doitshland?
It's actually the "Octopus Empire" guy, Fritze (remember that YT video?). Does good stuff :-)

Fritze
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Post Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:58 am

Howard wrote:
Fritze wrote:Maybe he's from Doitshland?
It's actually the "Octopus Empire" guy, Fritze (remember that YT video?). Does good stuff :-)
No, I don't remember. Off to the tube... :)

EDIT: Ahhh, jajajaja!!!! Now I got it. As soon as I saw the octopus! Great stuff. I thought that I know that style from somewhere but wasn't able to put my finger on it.

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