Hi Peter,Peter999 wrote:Yep, that's true. This btw was one of the patches that gave some headache too to me in the beginning since I simply was not successful to achieve the pongy darkish piano style sound of the synthmania demo, it simply didn't sound right because I tried to play it in normal way as you did in the beginning and the patch was wrong. The first wrong trials (but that sounded nice by themselves) btw can be found in the user patches bank, presets 11 and 12. Then I checked back several times with the patch sheets and listened carefully to the synthmania clip until I noticed that every note has that low octave introductory part before it makes the belly "ping", that's how I found how I have to play so that it sounds like the synthmania clip. The patch of course does not at all behave like a real piano, its name is a bit missleading.Ingonator wrote:
UPDATE:
Using your Midi file your preset seems to sound in your demo indeed. Your preset seems to rely very much on the playing style indeed. With different playing style it sound like the demo i published here at the page before.
Ingo
Btw, if we are discussing patches already: One patch really remained a mistery to me. It's patch 13 Juicy Funk, which uses the inverted filter envelope for the "bauaaa" beginning. You can't hear it in the synthmania clip, but when you listen to other sources on youtube you notice that when the note is hold the filter sweeps down again (so "bauaaaaaaaaoooooooouuuuuuuuummmmmmmmm") which in fact is impossible with the inverted filter envelope, it had to had a further segment for this. With a long decay and release it vice-versa should sweep up in fact instead of down because of the inversion. But it weeps down in the sustain phase. This somehow must be a special behaviour of the Jupiter-8 envelope in inversed mode, somehow losing voltage during the sustain phase or something alike. I have no other explanation for it, since this downsweeping should not be there read from the patch sheets.
EDIT:
I was blind. I found out what it is. It's a very slow lfo modulation towards the filter, it has nothing to do with the envelope. This somehow got forgot. Should be still added in patch 13. Somtething I'm however still not sure is if the LFO in the original Jupiter-8 is key triggered or free running. From the audio clips I heard I often would guess key triggered. But this had to be answered by someone who owns the device.
many thanks for your explanations. I'll re-check the Echo Pianos preset and already saved the current one as an alternative version.
I'll also have another look at the Juicy Funk preset.
Anyway i guess that it may be a good idea checking all presets with the audio demos first before i compare with your presets. I could still publish a first version then and do further optimizations later. Maybe others could then help with that too.
Ingo
