BlueARP VST Arpeggiator development - let's discuss! (OSX MIDI-FX is out)

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billblumjr
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8 posts since 24 Aug, 2012

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:49 am

This looks very good.. i watched the video.. and it blew me away.. I will try it out this weekend.. looking forward to it.. thanks for bringing this to us to try out.

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graywolf2004
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461 posts since 15 Apr, 2012 from Moscow, Russia

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:26 am

At last I made in work in Ableton Live 8.2.5! I was right - Ableton doesn't handle MIDI only plugins in a right way, so I added fake audio outputs. I beleive it shouldn't make it worse in other DAWs (in FL Studio - no difference).
Inside the archive there's a screenshot with my settings for Ableton.

Here's the link:
http://www.graywolf2004.net/files/BlueARP_v1.02.zip

Changes in v1.02
- fake audio outputs to make it work in Ableton Live
- GUI elements for page selection are there, but do nothing yet

Still working on 64 steps and pages.

Shabdahbriah
KVRAF
4813 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:32 am

graywolf2004 wrote:At last I made in work in Ableton Live 8.2.5! I was right - Ableton doesn't handle MIDI only plugins in a right way, so I added fake audio outputs. I beleive it shouldn't make it worse in other DAWs (in FL Studio - no difference).
Inside the archive there's a screenshot with my settings for Ableton.

Here's the link:
http://www.graywolf2004.net/files/BlueARP_v1.02.zip

Changes in v1.02
- fake audio outputs to make it work in Ableton Live
- GUI elements for page selection are there, but do nothing yet

Still working on 64 steps and pages.
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A.M. Gold
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5534 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:56 pm

In Reaper 4 I have a problem with some stuck notes.

For one, it doesn't always cut notes off immediately when keys are released (and this isn't when there is a tie, just a normal note). The other problem is that I keep finding that the chord setting makes some or all the notes stick on if it's on the last step.

Also, the rests aren't working here---notes are just sustaining through them.

Other than that, it's working well. A lot of good ideas in this---thanks!
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A.M. Gold
KVRAF
5534 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:47 pm

Correction: I see now what "rest" means here. I took it to mean rest as in sheet style notation (i.e. a pause).

Still having the issue with stuck chords though.
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graywolf2004
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461 posts since 15 Apr, 2012 from Moscow, Russia

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:10 pm

A.M. Gold wrote:Correction: I see now what "rest" means here. I took it to mean rest as in sheet style notation (i.e. a pause).
Still having the issue with stuck chords though.
I took the term "rest" from Novation Nova's arp - it's the way it works there. A better term suggestion?

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graywolf2004
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461 posts since 15 Apr, 2012 from Moscow, Russia

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:19 pm

A.M. Gold wrote:For one, it doesn't always cut notes off immediately when keys are released (and this isn't when there is a tie, just a normal note). The other problem is that I keep finding that the chord setting makes some or all the notes stick on if it's on the last step.
First issue should depend on inp.quantize setting. My idea was - when you set quantize say to 4 steps, it captures input notes on the beginning of step 1 and sustains them to the end of step 4. Meanwhile, somewhere on step 3 you press another chord, which will start playing on step 5, etc.
But witn inp.quantize = none is should release the notes immediately you release the input keys.
I'll check the chord issue also.
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A.M. Gold
KVRAF
5534 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:19 pm

graywolf2004 wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote:Correction: I see now what "rest" means here. I took it to mean rest as in sheet style notation (i.e. a pause).
Still having the issue with stuck chords though.
I took the term "rest" from Novation Nova's arp - it's the way it works there. A better term suggestion?
Well, that's actually what I would call a tie:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tie_(music)

I know you already have a tie option that you said was good with portamento but I haven't tried that yet.

Maybe "hold"?

I'll have to check how it's called in other arps, like Kirnu.
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A.M. Gold
KVRAF
5534 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:27 pm

graywolf2004 wrote:
A.M. Gold wrote:For one, it doesn't always cut notes off immediately when keys are released (and this isn't when there is a tie, just a normal note). The other problem is that I keep finding that the chord setting makes some or all the notes stick on if it's on the last step.
First issue should depend on inp.quantize setting. My idea was - when you set quantize say to 4 steps, it captures inpup notes on the beginning of step 1 and sustains them to the end of step 4. Meanwhile, somewhere on step 3 you press another chord, which will start playing on step 5, etc.
But witn inp.quantize = none is should release the notes immediately you release the input keys.
I'll check the chord issue also.
Ok, the problem hasn't happened since I tried it with soem other VSTi's so maybe it was a glitch.

There's another issue, though which is that I'm finding when I hit a new chord, a little bit of the whole chord always sneaks through at the beginning---Blue Arp doesn't immediately start the arpeggio. It's inconsistent too---sometimes it's a very short burst and other times it sustains longer. This is with no cells set to chord.
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A.M. Gold
KVRAF
5534 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony

Post Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:39 pm

Forget about the last issue, looks like it only happens when I'm sending MIDI in Reaper from one track to another. It's not happening with BlueArp on the same track as the VSTi.
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graywolf2004
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461 posts since 15 Apr, 2012 from Moscow, Russia

Post Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:50 am

Damn... I can't get myself from playing to programming.

Another nice trick is possible with 'Fixed key' option. If you want some steps to be independent from keys pressed, set step type to Fix - note will be taken from Fixed key param. Then, use octave and semitone transpose for them if necessary.
It allows to create nice variations with just 1 key pressed.

PS. 64 steps feature is halfway working.

rasmusklump
KVRian
777 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Germany

Post Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:26 am

This=simply amazing. I was struggeling formonth if I buy catanya because of the non responsive customer service and now comes this...

guppi
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113 posts since 5 May, 2009 from Berlin, Germany

Post Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:27 am

You are fast :)

It works now with Live 8.3.4 32bit and it's so much fun!!! :)

Two points:

- Donate button?
- Swing (please) :oops:

Thank you again...

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graywolf2004
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461 posts since 15 Apr, 2012 from Moscow, Russia

Post Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:12 am

guppi wrote:It works now with Live 8.3.4 32bit and it's so much fun!!! :)
Two points:
- Donate button?
- Swing (please) :oops:
Great! I'll make donate option, just need to set up a paypal account. Swing is in my todo list also, don't worry, I only postponed it a little bit.
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Shabdahbriah
KVRAF
4813 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle

Post Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:14 am

graywolf2004 wrote:
guppi wrote:It works now with Live 8.3.4 32bit and it's so much fun!!! :)
Two points:
- Donate button?
- Swing (please) :oops:
Great! I'll make donate option, just need to I set up a paypal account. Swing is in my todo list also, don't worry, I only postponed it a little bit.
+1 donate button... there ARE those of us who do. :wink:
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