Jean michel Jarre VST

[jsd]

Hi
i am looking for a vst synth which would reproduce this kind of sound
(oxygene)
Thanks

Do you mean this Sound?
Please wait a little Moment for Start

https://soundcloud.com/pietli/smastone

Is where no VSTi or a set of sounds avaible in order to
make this Jarre-Sound real?
In my researches and testing serveral VST I come only
in the direction to it, but far away from the example
here in soundcloud.

Pretty sure I already said it, but: Hollow Sun String Synths has pretty much this exact sound.
http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/strings/
Check the demo track on that page.

[Bladerunner1962]

Ok, I bought few minutes ago the hollow sun.
Yes, indeed, the ground sound is right, BUT..the difference to
the expample I quote in my posting before is very high.
I guess on the end, the phasing is the problem.
The room of the sound/the phasing of the example of
soundcloud is much bigger than in Hollow Sun VST.
Do you have some recommandations for it?

[jsd]

Ok, I bought few minutes ago the hollow sun.
Yes, indeed, the ground sound is right, BUT..the difference to
the expample I quote in my posting before is very high.
I guess on the end, the phasing is the problem.
The room of the sound/the phasing of the example of
soundcloud is much bigger than in Hollow Sun VST.
Do you have some recommandations for it?

Have you played around with the phaser settings on the Hollow Sun?

You can go into the InsertEffects, delete or bypass the phaser that's being controlled by the instrument panel and insert a new one of your own that you can crank up higher.

Or you could use an external phaser plugin after Kontakt. Guitar Rig has a component called Stoned Phaser which is pretty close to a Small Stone.

I think the Hollow Sun sounds pretty much right on if you use the Eminent 310 and play big slow Jarre chords.

[yessongs]

https://soundcloud.com/kv331synthmaster ... ubukata-11

[Bladerunner1962]

Ok, I bought few minutes ago the hollow sun.
Yes, indeed, the ground sound is right, BUT..the difference to
the expample I quote in my posting before is very high.
I guess on the end, the phasing is the problem.
The room of the sound/the phasing of the example of
soundcloud is much bigger than in Hollow Sun VST.
Do you have some recommandations for it?

Have you played around with the phaser settings on the Hollow Sun?

You can go into the InsertEffects, delete or bypass the phaser that's being controlled by the instrument panel and insert a new one of your own that you can crank up higher.

Or you could use an external phaser plugin after Kontakt. Guitar Rig has a component called Stoned Phaser which is pretty close to a Small Stone.

I think the Hollow Sun sounds pretty much right on if you use the Eminent 310 and play big slow Jarre chords.

Yes, I played around with the phaser settings and tried differend
manipulations on the effects within the Hollow Sun.
Also I have serveral Phaser VSTs. It's not the same. I guess, the original hardware Stone Phaser is not via VST replacable.

[murnau]

Yes, I played around with the phaser settings and tried differend manipulations on the effects within the Hollow Sun.
Also I have serveral Phaser VSTs. It's not the same. I guess, the original hardware Stone Phaser is not via VST replacable.

artsacoustic created a vst of the Electro-Harmonix Small Stone, actually the plug cost more then the original hardware you can buy nowdays:

http://www.thomann.de/de/electro_harmon ... _stone.htm

[Sequent]

Yes, I played around with the phaser settings and tried differend manipulations on the effects within the Hollow Sun.
Also I have serveral Phaser VSTs. It's not the same. I guess, the original hardware Stone Phaser is not via VST replacable.

artsacoustic created a vst of the Electro-Harmonix Small Stone, actually the plug cost more then the original hardware you can buy nowdays:

http://www.thomann.de/de/electro_harmon ... _stone.htm

Ha! I was just posting the same thing. Guess you beat me to it!

Here's a direct link to the Big Rock page to go along with the Small Stone link:

http://www.artsacoustic.com/artsacoustic_bigrock.php

[HunterKiller]

Yes, I played around with the phaser settings and tried differend manipulations on the effects within the Hollow Sun.
Also I have serveral Phaser VSTs. It's not the same. I guess, the original hardware Stone Phaser is not via VST replacable.

artsacoustic created a vst of the Electro-Harmonix Small Stone, actually the plug cost more then the original hardware you can buy nowdays:

http://www.thomann.de/de/electro_harmon ... _stone.htm

And rightfully so, the old MKII SS phaser is tastefully more creamy than the newer re-issue - which sounds more like an effect applied onto the sound, rather than making the whole sound, sound like a sound effect.
Just look how they've massacred the Electric Mistress re-issue, Jarre's second most used modulation effect.

[Resonator63]

https://soundcloud.com/kv331synthmaster ... ubukata-11

That's exactly what I suggested

[Bladerunner1962]

Yes, I played around with the phaser settings and tried differend manipulations on the effects within the Hollow Sun.
Also I have serveral Phaser VSTs. It's not the same. I guess, the original hardware Stone Phaser is not via VST replacable.

artsacoustic created a vst of the Electro-Harmonix Small Stone, actually the plug cost more then the original hardware you can buy nowdays:

http://www.thomann.de/de/electro_harmon ... _stone.htm

Ha! I was just posting the same thing. Guess you beat me to it!

Here's a direct link to the Big Rock page to go along with the Small Stone link:

http://www.artsacoustic.com/artsacoustic_bigrock.php

The Big Rock I have as demo since some weeks. The phasing is great, but
I don't accept the price of around 80€...and I don't understand in comparison to a lot of complete VST Synthesizers to same prices with hundrets of samples and presets and filters

[jsd]

The Big Rock I have as demo since some weeks. The phasing is great, but
I don't accept the price of around 80€...and I don't understand in comparison to a lot of complete VST Synthesizers to same prices with hundrets of samples and presets and filters

A real small stone can be had for $70, but then you have to deal with changing batteries, and getting the sound in and out of your computer. I guess you pay for the convenience.

Did you check the Guitar Rig "Stoned Phaser"? It's pretty good.

Also don't forget the Jarre delay trick - pan the original signal hard left and a delayed version hard right. Gives a very big sound stage.

[kevvvvv]

Some nice audio samples and youtubes in this thread

thanx = kev

[dmbaer]

Check out the following link ... it's very close to what you're looking for. Pay particular attention to the section "The Arrival of 91-0071750…".

It does require the full version of Kontakt, however. If you have that, then this a fabulous offering with an attractive price (as are just about everything from Hideaway Studios).

http://hideawaystudio.wordpress.com/201 ... r-kontakt/

[Bladerunner1962]

Kontakt: I have only a Kontakt Player licence. Only the bought original Kontakt libraries are working fine for me. All other stuff (also sometimes bought) is running in a demo mode. So this a "bad" handling.
I have'nt planned an investment of 400€ for the full version.

But many thx for the tipp!

[Bladerunner1962]

In some postings here I read, that the big phasing String sound
was made with two Hardware Small Stones.
In my DAW (Cantabile) I experiemented now, loading two
instances of eg. a VST like Vintage Strings plus on each
behind a Phaser VST.
It works, but again far away from the example posted in this
thread.
Could it be, that on the end the two instances play only one?

I guess, that it belongs to the phaser quality. Meanwhile I
collected the most VST of Phaser VSTs.
Also the Bigstone Phase loaded in two instances didn't brought
the sound.

Is the conclusion, that a software Phaser never would bring
the sound compared to a hardware Phaser?
I would'nt believe that so far, cause there are so many
VST instruments like emulations, which sounds exact as
the old hardware versions.