Oberheim 8000 wrote:YesRichard_Synapse wrote:Just to clarify, you mean the Linplug synth Spectral correct?Oberheim 8000 wrote:Can we get spectral filter in Dune 3 ? Similar like Spectral synth with filter offset (LP from +6 to 24), frequency and resonance. If in Dune 3 will be option to have two filters, I can imagine to experiment with two Spectral filters.
Richard
DUNE 2 is out now!!
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- KVRist
- 278 posts since 1 Feb, 2014
And spectral filter? Will be considered in Dune 3?
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Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936 - KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1136 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
Just bought it and checked it out. The whole synth seems to use an entirely different approach to synthesis based in the frequency domain, very interesting, but completely different from a typical VA synth. IIRC the synth ZynAddSubFX first introduced a similar concept about 15 years ago, and still seems to be around.Oberheim 8000 wrote:And spectral filter? Will be considered in Dune 3?
In any case Dune 3 will introduce new, top-notch filters that's for sure
Richard
Synapse Audio Software - www.synapse-audio.com
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- KVRist
- 278 posts since 1 Feb, 2014
Thanks for info.
If I may ask another question, what about wavetables and wave creation, will be it in Dune 3 ? (I post some ideas on your forum some time ago (synapse-audio forum), but I don't know if it was considered).
If I may ask another question, what about wavetables and wave creation, will be it in Dune 3 ? (I post some ideas on your forum some time ago (synapse-audio forum), but I don't know if it was considered).
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Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1136 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
Yes it will have a powerful editor, where you can create your own wavetables or import wave files. Regarding your ideas, we generally consider all ideas of course but I don't know under which nickname you posted and when. If you could post a link or copy/paste your wishes here I'm happy to comment on themOberheim 8000 wrote:Thanks for info.
If I may ask another question, what about wavetables and wave creation, will be it in Dune 3 ? (I post some ideas on your forum some time ago (synapse-audio forum), but I don't know if it was considered).
Richard
Synapse Audio Software - www.synapse-audio.com
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- KVRist
- 278 posts since 1 Feb, 2014
That is great.
I have Oberheim nickname on your forum. I checked my old post, but now it is not much relevant because it was for Dune 2 idea. Now I have more experience with WT synth (Serum) and my old idea is nothing more what basic WT editor have. If you are interest in my post, here it is:
http://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewtopi ... =5&t=11272
But for the LFOs and MSEGs (what I have on my idea post) can be apply for v3
1. + new wave creation by bezier curves - similar like Cycle synth (from amaranth audio) or like some 2D vector graphic editor (inkscape)
- with bezier curve editor for more detailed wave, there will be tools where you can under point or line, raise some noise or another bezier curve pattern (similar to Serum, but Serum have it by grid)
- grid for bezier curve editor, user can change grid in horizontal and vertical and snap points in to grid.
- every change in curve editor will be reflected in harmonic editor or hand wave editor.
2. options to follow curve in harmonic editor. That means harmonics will follow curve displayed in harmonic area. User can add points and change curve or make lines and patterns for curve.
- curve is non-destructive editing, that means if wave is created by hand, harmonics or imported, turn follow curve options only add new harmonics, raise raised harmonics, turn down raised harmonics, and combinations of this three - it depends on options.
When options follow the curve is turned off, harmonics are back to original positions.
3. option Snap to grid in harmonic editor - harmonic is snaped to user defined grid, when harmonic is edited. It can be used for follow curve too (point 2.).
4. 2D mode for wavetable. It is inspired from Wavemapper (Wolfgang PPG).
That means wavetable will have 2d mode option where all wave will be displayed not side by side (1d) but in grid with columns and rows (like Wavemapper) (2d) and user can rearange this waves.
Grid can be resized from 2x2 to any size with maximum possible waves in wavetable. For example 16x16, 8x3, 128x2, 2x32, ...
On each grid cell, will be displayed wave.
This mode will have special 2D MSEG and can be draw in this wavetable 2D grid and set points which are start, loop-start, loop-end and release.
- points can be snaped to grid - each point will be centered in to one wave (grid cell)
- points can be freely added or moved in grid
- change line curve between two points (with curve tools, i don't know how it call it, inspired from bezier curve from 2d vector editor like inkscape)
- linear time editor with options for times (free by seconds and snap by tempo ) and speed
While 2D MSEGs is playing, it take each wave from wave grid cell.
- If played point is centered in one grid cell, it play only one wave from this cell.
- if played point is between two grid cells it mix waves like classic wavetable
- if played point is between four waves while crossing in to another point in wavetable grid, it mix four waves.
- etc..
Transitions between all waves are smooth.
5. And good GUI. Consider most on functionality = display most controls as possible, if something can control another thing, dont hide it in to ModMatrix, of course it is not possible to do for everything but for example filter, osc will have one or two special knob where you can choose MSEG or LFO or any controlable source and destination, and with knob change the amount of changes. For example, osiclator have this knob, where you choose oscilator2 as source and destination as pitch and set up amount with knob.
Another example, If wavetable editor or other editors like ModMatrix will be inside small rectangle, the workflow can be not enjoyable or will be annoying.
I have Oberheim nickname on your forum. I checked my old post, but now it is not much relevant because it was for Dune 2 idea. Now I have more experience with WT synth (Serum) and my old idea is nothing more what basic WT editor have. If you are interest in my post, here it is:
http://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewtopi ... =5&t=11272
But for the LFOs and MSEGs (what I have on my idea post) can be apply for v3
Now, if Dune 3 will have full wavetable creation capabilities (hand draw wave with tools and harmonics editor similar like Serum) my new ideas are:separate LFOs (and MSEGs) for each voice
1. + new wave creation by bezier curves - similar like Cycle synth (from amaranth audio) or like some 2D vector graphic editor (inkscape)
- with bezier curve editor for more detailed wave, there will be tools where you can under point or line, raise some noise or another bezier curve pattern (similar to Serum, but Serum have it by grid)
- grid for bezier curve editor, user can change grid in horizontal and vertical and snap points in to grid.
- every change in curve editor will be reflected in harmonic editor or hand wave editor.
2. options to follow curve in harmonic editor. That means harmonics will follow curve displayed in harmonic area. User can add points and change curve or make lines and patterns for curve.
- curve is non-destructive editing, that means if wave is created by hand, harmonics or imported, turn follow curve options only add new harmonics, raise raised harmonics, turn down raised harmonics, and combinations of this three - it depends on options.
When options follow the curve is turned off, harmonics are back to original positions.
3. option Snap to grid in harmonic editor - harmonic is snaped to user defined grid, when harmonic is edited. It can be used for follow curve too (point 2.).
4. 2D mode for wavetable. It is inspired from Wavemapper (Wolfgang PPG).
That means wavetable will have 2d mode option where all wave will be displayed not side by side (1d) but in grid with columns and rows (like Wavemapper) (2d) and user can rearange this waves.
Grid can be resized from 2x2 to any size with maximum possible waves in wavetable. For example 16x16, 8x3, 128x2, 2x32, ...
On each grid cell, will be displayed wave.
This mode will have special 2D MSEG and can be draw in this wavetable 2D grid and set points which are start, loop-start, loop-end and release.
- points can be snaped to grid - each point will be centered in to one wave (grid cell)
- points can be freely added or moved in grid
- change line curve between two points (with curve tools, i don't know how it call it, inspired from bezier curve from 2d vector editor like inkscape)
- linear time editor with options for times (free by seconds and snap by tempo ) and speed
While 2D MSEGs is playing, it take each wave from wave grid cell.
- If played point is centered in one grid cell, it play only one wave from this cell.
- if played point is between two grid cells it mix waves like classic wavetable
- if played point is between four waves while crossing in to another point in wavetable grid, it mix four waves.
- etc..
Transitions between all waves are smooth.
5. And good GUI. Consider most on functionality = display most controls as possible, if something can control another thing, dont hide it in to ModMatrix, of course it is not possible to do for everything but for example filter, osc will have one or two special knob where you can choose MSEG or LFO or any controlable source and destination, and with knob change the amount of changes. For example, osiclator have this knob, where you choose oscilator2 as source and destination as pitch and set up amount with knob.
Another example, If wavetable editor or other editors like ModMatrix will be inside small rectangle, the workflow can be not enjoyable or will be annoying.
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- KVRAF
- 5664 posts since 7 Feb, 2013
Occasionally found this at the FB page of Green Beats which are agruably among the best psychill producers out there.
You may think you can fly ... but you better not try
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Can't SA pick a different skin for the Featured Product ad on the right side of the KVR site? Just saying, Dune 2 is featured so often, the eye hardly notices it anymore. So, pick a light skin for a change, I think there were different colors...
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artificialmusic artificialmusic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=403320
- KVRer
- 7 posts since 21 Aug, 2017
is there still an upgrade price for dune 2, i don't see it on the website anymore?
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
There is a bundle of (Dune 1+2), but you are right there is no upgrade price from Dune 1 to Dune 2. I think it would be nice to have another bundle (Legend + Dune 2) for $199artificialmusic wrote:is there still an upgrade price for dune 2, i don't see it on the website anymore?
Well, this is what I paid for the two anyway 
I hope there will be a reasonable upgrade price from Dune 2 to 3 (that means <= $99 for me), but let's see version 3 first and hear it! Who knows? I might not upgrade after all as I have synths cover me from head to toe!
