Correct, and when the WUP has ended, you are not allowed to transfer the license either.chk071 wrote:So how to understand this WUP thing? I register Codex today, and get one year of updates, and after that, i won't receive any more updates for Codex, if there are any?
Codex vs Serum
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- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
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- KVRian
- 1265 posts since 3 Jul, 2009
You will receive all the V9 updates untill there is new V10 version. If V10 is released within your one year WUP period you will of course get the V10 (and all updates for that version).
About your installation problem: well I think in that case the WUP for LinPhaseMB should have been enough to get support, installing it was the cause of the problem.
About your installation problem: well I think in that case the WUP for LinPhaseMB should have been enough to get support, installing it was the cause of the problem.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Ok, thanks. 
Guess a license transfer wouldn't make much sense for a $21,90 purchase anyway. 
Bit harsh BTW, only 1 year of updates, and then you have to pay for further updates... although i don't know any other company which does sales so frequently. Makes me wonder a bit about the regular prices though.
Guess a license transfer wouldn't make much sense for a $21,90 purchase anyway. Bit harsh BTW, only 1 year of updates, and then you have to pay for further updates... although i don't know any other company which does sales so frequently. Makes me wonder a bit about the regular prices though.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yeah, my bad. What i meant is that you have to pay for further new version updates.
Just played around a bit with Codex BTW, after being annoyed that you neither can choose where to install Waves Central, nor where to install the plugins. Quite disapointed TBH. What are Waves smoking that they charge $199 regularly for this synth? Seriously, about every freeware synth released in the last 10 years sounds better to my ears. And the parameter ranges could do with a lot finer resolution, the whole GUI feels sluggish too. Filters: Bad and digital sounding. And the raw waveforms sound as if there would be cap on the sound, very canny. Oh well, i should have known when even Beat mag, and CM mag write in their reviews that the sound could be better. Anyway, fair enough for that price, it was worth a shot. Don't think i'll keep it installed though.
Just played around a bit with Codex BTW, after being annoyed that you neither can choose where to install Waves Central, nor where to install the plugins. Quite disapointed TBH. What are Waves smoking that they charge $199 regularly for this synth? Seriously, about every freeware synth released in the last 10 years sounds better to my ears. And the parameter ranges could do with a lot finer resolution, the whole GUI feels sluggish too. Filters: Bad and digital sounding. And the raw waveforms sound as if there would be cap on the sound, very canny. Oh well, i should have known when even Beat mag, and CM mag write in their reviews that the sound could be better. Anyway, fair enough for that price, it was worth a shot. Don't think i'll keep it installed though.
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- KVRer
- 11 posts since 5 Nov, 2008
Codex was advertised for $35 today, but what really caught my eyes in the Waves Synth Day ad is the screen shot. "What? Waves bought Serum?" (Never heard of Codex till now.)
Oh, OK, so it's a Serum look-alike at a fraction of the cost. Bit it needs Windows 10 and Live 10, neither of which I look forward to upgrade to. And there is also the unpleasantry of dealing with iLok, on top... nah. But for a few moments I was really stumped, thinking Waves bought Serum.
Oh, OK, so it's a Serum look-alike at a fraction of the cost. Bit it needs Windows 10 and Live 10, neither of which I look forward to upgrade to. And there is also the unpleasantry of dealing with iLok, on top... nah. But for a few moments I was really stumped, thinking Waves bought Serum.
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- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
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- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Codex looks nothing like Serum. Also, it's been around for six years.
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- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
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- KVRist
- 395 posts since 6 May, 2020
6 years later and at least at the moment Codex is insanely cheaper at $35, but definitely shows its age quite a bit more.
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- KVRian
- 550 posts since 11 Dec, 2017
I find myself using both Serum and Codex a lot. It's kind of like Codex split the difference between Serum and Sylenth in terms of the true one-window approach with mostly fixed assignments. It reminds me a bit more of hardware wavetable synths, although those are doing it out of cost/necessity whereas Codex seemed to choose to simplify a bit.consordini wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:52 am 6 years later and at least at the moment Codex is insanely cheaper at $35, but definitely shows its age quite a bit more.
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- KVRAF
- 1574 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
What a joke. Codex is so far beyond serum it's not even a contest. 50 years from now Codex will be it's own well-established musical genre, while Serum will be forgotten, lost decades earlier in a pile of cow manure.
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- KVRian
- 700 posts since 19 Jan, 2008
You are right briefcasemanx, when I heard of Codex I already forgot about Serum. What's Serum?
I'd rather pay $200 on Serum than $30 on Codex. Why? Because Serum is way more easy to use, better sound quality, simple copy protection and can be used on more than one computer, even after a year. You can't get the same depth of editing your sound with Codex, it feels like it's a lite version of the free version of Serum.
I'd rather pay $200 on Serum than $30 on Codex. Why? Because Serum is way more easy to use, better sound quality, simple copy protection and can be used on more than one computer, even after a year. You can't get the same depth of editing your sound with Codex, it feels like it's a lite version of the free version of Serum.
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- KVRAF
- 1631 posts since 3 Mar, 2009 from Colorado Springs
I got Codex for free in a magazine promotion recently and for that price I'm impressed :p I'm using its wavetables in Vital and Serum, but my moments spent in Codex were not unpleasant ones and actually caused me to seek out more powerful wavetable synths. Thanks, Codex!
