Air Hybrid 3? Opinions, comparable with?

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mutantdog
KVRAF
1964 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:27 am

Does it still come with a license for Hybrid 2 or is that going to be the next $50 "upgrade" they release?

EnGee
KVRAF
7632 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:42 am

mutantdog wrote:Does it still come with a license for Hybrid 2 or is that going to be the next $50 "upgrade" they release?
It's Hybrid 3 which includes Hybrid 2 presets. I haven't heard about Hybrid 4.

Anyway, although I have it (NFR), I bought it with all the expansions. So, it is now like I have 4 authorizations :D

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mutantdog
KVRAF
1964 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from The Infinite Void

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:24 pm

My Hybrid 3 did actually come with an installer and seperate license code for Hybrid 2, this was a couple of years ago bundled with an AKAI keyboard. I presume it was for backwards compatibility or something, it was before AIR switched to soft iLok and was still using the abandoned PACE EDEN system.

Anyway, the point of my post was a reference to the $49 crossgrade/downgrade deal AIR recently did for Vacuum Classic. Not the wittiest comment, admittedly! :D

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VELLTONE MUSIC
KVRian
1361 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:39 pm

i guess the idea of this ridiculous price is to test these guys old products and if like it to buy the new ones - i definitely like Vacuum pro

fluffy_little_something
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12897 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:42 pm

I think Vacuum Pro is actually older than Hybrid 3...

ramseysounds
KVRian
1030 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:47 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:The built-in limiter produces some ugly noise when playing chords...
Don't then...
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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Local Man
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933 posts since 31 May, 2017

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:56 pm

What exactly are the expansion packs? Preset libraries I assume, and...? After a quick look it seems as if they are geared mostly to EDM production as they are created (or promoted) by a bunch of DJs I have never heard of. If you have used these, in what way do they add to the capabilities of this synth for you?
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fluffy_little_something
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12897 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:59 pm

ramseysounds wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:The built-in limiter produces some ugly noise when playing chords...
Don't then...
Great idea 8)

EnGee
KVRAF
7632 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:30 pm

The new one is Vacuum Classic which is lightweight synth and monophonic version of Pro. It's a nice synth, but I really don't know about the price (I have the NFR license).

Maybe, if we wait for the next AIEP, it will be included in the package. BOOM as well is a fun old school drums machine.

Still IMO, they need a bigger GUI and better prices plan.

Oh and the presets I just thought something different. Sometimes I use EDM presets in non EDM music. After all they are $1 each, so no that risk even if I don't like them all ;)

Sg1122
KVRist
106 posts since 2 Aug, 2017

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:40 pm

i agree with bigger gui and it would also be nice if you could use the keyboard arrows to browse presets

other than that i am glad i bought the bundle

fluffy_little_something
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12897 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:46 pm

Sg1122 wrote:i agree with bigger gui and it would also be nice if you could use the keyboard arrows to browse presets

other than that i am glad i bought the bundle
The drop-down menu-based patch management is a bit dated and clumsy to begin with.

EnGee
KVRAF
7632 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:02 pm

Sg1122 wrote:i agree with bigger gui and it would also be nice if you could use the keyboard arrows to browse presets
I really think this is a very easy addition because the functions are already there, so just bind the arrows to them.

Anyway, I'm thinking of the VIP software so browsing would be easier, although I believe it's time that all synths implement an easy to use/search browser with optional fav icon and notes/categories for every preset.

fluffy_little_something
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12897 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:04 pm

Just programmed a new bass, it does have a pleasant bottom :)
https://app.box.com/s/89vn19kwlv6gupy9go23zbk7sbmm9cpz

EnGee
KVRAF
7632 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:23 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:Just programmed a new bass, it does have a pleasant bottom :)
https://app.box.com/s/89vn19kwlv6gupy9go23zbk7sbmm9cpz
Thanks for sharing. I'll give it a go when I'm home as I love program basses ;)

Sg1122
KVRist
106 posts since 2 Aug, 2017

Post Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:25 pm

EnGee wrote:
Sg1122 wrote:i agree with bigger gui and it would also be nice if you could use the keyboard arrows to browse presets
Anyway, I'm thinking of the VIP software so browsing would be easier, although I believe it's time that all synths implement an easy to use/search browser with optional fav icon and notes/categories for every preset.
i actually have vip and havent used it really i will have to look into this

have you had any issues with it so far ?

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