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alvfaria
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1269 posts since 4 Apr, 2011 from Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Post Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:31 am

The other probable candidates could de the Game Boy and the Amiga Paula.
I also mentioned before I am very (I mean VERY) interested in some possible Casio Consonantal Vowel emulations (the Casiotone series). I have a real casiotone from 1993, the MT800 (the onde with the detachable "Mickey mouse ears" speakers) but it has some malfuntiones. I love the raw sound of these things!

midi_transmission
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495 posts since 13 Feb, 2013

Post Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:48 pm

The classic yamaha FM synths will be an instant purchase for me. I'd like to see more emulation of classic digital 80/90 synth with the known sonic quality of Ploque products. Maybe also with emulation by their DAC stages in addition. I think it's sometimes a big part of the sound.

Lucastyle
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102 posts since 5 Sep, 2011

Post Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 pm

Does anyone know if there is a way to make the oscillator phase in Chipsynth MD free run, or is it set to re trigger at 0 phase always?

s28
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427 posts since 9 Aug, 2017

Post Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:38 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:10 am
The chipsynth line has many different entries in the pipes still and some are unannounced. We hope to release one or two a year for the next 6 years. Each one with the same deep research and modelling. SFC is a welcome change from FM we think haha.
(we have two more FM synths in the future)
Yeah understandable. I don't mean to sound against the new one - I just think it isn't my bag and I look forward to future plugins from you! I think emulating 80/90s synths samplers with your level of accuracy would mean a lot more sales as the demand is higher than this new one your making(from my own perspective and knowing the amount of ppl into those kinds of sounds). I know it's not all about that but it might make sense to do something like that sooner, like a bang on mpc 60/3000 emulation or some ensoniq gear for example.
Just wishful thinking out loud really!

s28
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427 posts since 9 Aug, 2017

Post Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:39 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:22 am
alvfaria wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:19 am
If yiu are going straight to the top with the dx7, I guess the second onde will be the TX81Z
We basically had the initial idea of cramming all classic FM synths in one product called "YM/FM"
but that quickly became a design nightmare and decided to split them up. So I guess yes?
Would buy that in an instant!

davidv@plogue
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710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:46 am

Lucastyle wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 pm
Does anyone know if there is a way to make the oscillator phase in Chipsynth MD free run, or is it set to re trigger at 0 phase always?
Hi, would need a "unrealistic" hack to change this.
Operator free run is not something that can be achieved with our current knowledge of the "budget" line of FM chips like OPN/OPM. The EG and OP are resyched togheter. You can do that on a DX7 though.

On the OPN2 you can technically individually gate each operator (in a 4OP voice), but making a UI for this would have been odd with regards to voice allocation (sorry If I'm too nerdy)
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
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https://plogue.com

davidv@plogue
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710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:55 am

s28 wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:38 am
I think emulating 80/90s synths samplers with your level of accuracy would mean a lot more sales as the demand is higher than this new one your making(...)
Would be lying if I said that stuff wasn't on our radar.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com

Lucastyle
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102 posts since 5 Sep, 2011

Post Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:56 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:46 am
Lucastyle wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:59 pm
Does anyone know if there is a way to make the oscillator phase in Chipsynth MD free run, or is it set to re trigger at 0 phase always?
Hi, would need a "unrealistic" hack to change this.
Operator free run is not something that can be achieved with our current knowledge of the "budget" line of FM chips like OPN/OPM. The EG and OP are resyched togheter. You can do that on a DX7 though.

On the OPN2 you can technically individually gate each operator (in a 4OP voice), but making a UI for this would have been odd with regards to voice allocation (sorry If I'm too nerdy)
I guess I can try to achieve this by using the delay in the stack section but I can't seem to find what the value in that parameter stands for, is it milliseconds or samples? and is there any change of getting a parameter with more of a fine tuning because just delaying by one is just too much in some cases.

Another cool thing to have It would be an alternate modulator source in addition to the random poly and mono.

thanks for the responses and I'm loving your products and videos.

davidv@plogue
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710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:32 am

Lucastyle wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:56 am
I guess I can try to achieve this by using the delay in the stack section but I can't seem to find what the value in that parameter stands for, is it milliseconds or samples? and is there any change of getting a parameter with more of a fine tuning because just delaying by one is just too much in some cases.
Its in 100ths of a second. First time someone said it wasnt granular enough :)
Lucastyle wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:56 am
Another cool thing to have It would be an alternate modulator source in addition to the random poly and mono. thanks for the responses and I'm loving your products and videos.

Thanks. Just messing with the Mod matrix yet again so I'll consider it.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com

davidv@plogue
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710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:45 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:32 am
Its in 100ths of a second. First time someone said it wasnt granular enough :)
Just double checked and you can type precise floating point values directly if you want.
Say 50.134587. The knob itself will still show 50, but the engine will get the requested value .. until you mess with the knob again.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
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https://plogue.com

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alvfaria
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1269 posts since 4 Apr, 2011 from Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:18 am

I'm trying to replicate a patch from a Megadrive game (Gauntlet) on chipsynth MD with no success. I want some help, but I don't know if this topic is the right place for this type of question. :oops:

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tonedef71
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1306 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:56 pm

Martin Galway wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:38 am
As for accuracy - well, believe me I have spent enough time listening to the SID. I can tell you this is the most accurate-sounding SID software synthesiser you will ever hear. I really do not believe anyone else will ever take the time to try to surpass what Mike Clarke has done with InSIDious.
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When it comes to emulation, InSIDious is the pinnacle of the exercise.
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54 posts since 14 Jan, 2020

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:03 am

alvfaria wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:18 am
I'm trying to replicate a patch from a Megadrive game (Gauntlet) on chipsynth MD with no success. I want some help, but I don't know if this topic is the right place for this type of question. :oops:
you can always cheat and load the vgm file into chipsynth MD's player. might have to do a bit of tweaking for vibrato or pitch bending, but this'll pretty much give you the patch directly.

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alvfaria
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1269 posts since 4 Apr, 2011 from Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:48 am

I did it. The question is exactly about the vibrato. But I ended up with a satisfying interpretation using pitch bend

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alvfaria
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1269 posts since 4 Apr, 2011 from Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:49 am

The vibrato seems to be very limited. Or I am doing something wrong

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