Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

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Ploki
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2375 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:18 am

4damind wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:17 am
I see Strobe as a mix of the SH101 and the Juno 60. This synth is a bit underrated (or people don't like the new GUI)
the improved 2.5 version looks somehow better and feels snappier than the original 2.0 version.
also a reason i kept it. :D

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
8274 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:34 am

Strobe oscs sound nothing like a 101 at lower octave ranges, especially when mixing waveforms to try to emulate the 101 mixed osc, so yeah maybe a little more junoish. Kind of it’s own thing though.
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1, Bitwig 3, Steinberg UR44.

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eluherlu
KVRist
172 posts since 13 Aug, 2017

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:54 am

MPE is also a great thing about strobe. Someday I'll get seaboard or whatever.
Believe it or not, I once had Strobe 2 some time ago, then sold it, and then bought it again, because I kinda missed the sound :D
Version 2.5 is much much better with cpu usage. But I feel like previous version have better sound and filter envelope. I don't know, maybe it just me..

himalaya
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5234 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:40 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:34 am
Strobe oscs sound nothing like a 101 at lower octave ranges, especially when mixing waveforms to try to emulate the 101 mixed osc, so yeah maybe a little more junoish. Kind of it’s own thing though.
You have to use Strobe's sub-oscillator to get the 101 sound. The following demos were made with Strobe v1 and a real Roland SH-101, each file plays the same riff on both synths:

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... y_saw1.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Growl.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Nasal.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... bounce.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Synth.wav
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himalaya
KVRAF
5234 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:56 am

eluherlu wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:54 am

Version 2.5 is much much better with cpu usage. But I feel like previous version have better sound and filter envelope. I don't know, maybe it just me..
There are a number of changes that will create a difference between the two versions. For example, by default the filter drive is much higher in Strobe 1 so you get this plummy sound in the initialised patch, and this tells our ears that Strobe 1 is fatter. But, turn the filter drive dial up in V2 and you will get the same plummy sound.

Strobe 2 is immediately brighter sounding as it's set to 2x oversampling by default, so this could create an illusion that it is colder sounding...but it just sounds as it should, 'present' and 'vibrant'.

The envelopes are scaled differently in v2, if I recall correctly.

Then, Strobe V2 offers much more control when it comes to the actual 'tone' (check out the new 'Tone' and 'Shape' parameters).

Also, the included effects can alter the sound in new ways, not possible in Strobe 1 (even if used in Fusor), so overall, there is much more going on in Strobe2. It's possible to create a richer, more intricate sonic output in Strobe 2.
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Uncle E
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11835 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:39 am

himalaya wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:40 am
You have to use Strobe's sub-oscillator to get the 101 sound. The following demos were made with Strobe v1 and a real Roland SH-101, each file plays the same riff on both synths:
Amazing! That’s the closest I’ve ever heard a plugin get to the real thing.

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4damind
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5038 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:51 am

I mean Strobe is also used by Above & Beyond and by others (mostly for Trance) and especially for bass sounds. Of course you have to program it accordingly also with the sub-oscillators.
Anyway... the examples sound pretty close to a SH101!

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EvilDragon
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19806 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:14 am

SH-101 still sounds rounder and warmer in those examples. I'm feeling TAL's BassLine is still closer to it (well obviously since that's the sole purpose of it) - but for a synth that doesn't have an express mission to sound 1:1 to SH-101, those examples are indeed quite close.

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
8274 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:15 am

himalaya wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:40 am
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:34 am
Strobe oscs sound nothing like a 101 at lower octave ranges, especially when mixing waveforms to try to emulate the 101 mixed osc, so yeah maybe a little more junoish. Kind of it’s own thing though.
You have to use Strobe's sub-oscillator to get the 101 sound. The following demos were made with Strobe v1 and a real Roland SH-101, each file plays the same riff on both synths:

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... y_saw1.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Growl.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Nasal.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... bounce.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Synth.wav
Yeah of course you have to use the sub osc. It can sound very close as your examples show, however I've done really close comparisons and there are many settings where sub osc + regular osc can not sound like a 101. In particular with the filter more open. Yours were mostly quite filtered.
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1, Bitwig 3, Steinberg UR44.

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Uncle E
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11835 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:07 am

Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:15 am
It can sound very close as your examples show, however I've done really close comparisons and there are many settings where sub osc + regular osc can not sound like a 101. In particular with the filter more open. Yours were mostly quite filtered.
Were you testing Strobe 1 or 2?

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
8274 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:11 pm

Uncle E wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:07 am
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:15 am
It can sound very close as your examples show, however I've done really close comparisons and there are many settings where sub osc + regular osc can not sound like a 101. In particular with the filter more open. Yours were mostly quite filtered.
Were you testing Strobe 1 or 2?
V2. To be fair it was probably a small range of potential sounds that couldn't match, but it is an element of the 101 I really like, which is the sub osc with either/or the saw and square osc mixed in to it, at low bass range notes, with a pretty open filter. The 101 has a pretty unique sound there. I had been comparing several 101 type synths to see which really got close in that range. Interestingly Bazille got closer to a 101 for the specific osc range I was testing than Strobe did. The Reaktor 101 type osc block was quite accurate and obviously the TAL and Roland were best.
System: Windows 10, Dell XPS 2-in-1, Bitwig 3, Steinberg UR44.

JerGoertz
KVRAF
2864 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:01 pm

himalaya wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:40 am
You have to use Strobe's sub-oscillator to get the 101 sound. The following demos were made with Strobe v1 and a real Roland SH-101, each file plays the same riff on both synths:

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... y_saw1.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Growl.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Nasal.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... bounce.wav

http://www.electric-himalaya.com/stuff/ ... _Synth.wav
Which one comes first?
A well-behaved signature.

himalaya
KVRAF
5234 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium

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Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:47 pm

You tell me :)
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JerGoertz
KVRAF
2864 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:53 pm

himalaya wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:47 pm
You tell me :)
I'd say the SH-101 is first. It sounds richer and rounder to me, though not by much.
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v1o
KVRAF
2267 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: Fxpansion Strobe 2 is available

Post Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:08 pm

I wish Expansion would update Orca to 64 bit!
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