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Biome_Digital
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1660 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:36 am

chagzuki wrote:
Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:18 am
Biome_Digital wrote:
Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:10 am
What does it lack for basses?
As others have mentioned, FM other than sine, plus other audio rate modulation options. Every time I was trying to get a bass patch right, after a lot of experimenting it was always the Phaseplant versions that made the grade, and the Falcon patches sounded too basic. Falcon would be fine for more analog-ish basses, but I tend to go for more aggressive sounds.

I've found Falcon very good for setting up pads or bell-like patches that have variation, or interesting randomness, by both randomising attributes at the keygroup level, and by layer cycling. It also allows for quite sophisticated control of panning.
I've not really tied dubstep basses in Falcon yet as I am working on more ambient/film score pack. I don't know how good the wavetables are in Falcon for hard basses, but you might get better results from importing wavetables from serum/phaseplant/massive, ect..

As far as programming/workflow goes, once I learned the hierarchy, there was no problem with Falcon. Pretty logical and straightforward, actually. I prefer the workflow to some other synths, like Synthmaster, for example. It's definitely nowhere near as fast, intuitive, or easy to program as Pigments, but that's because the options with keygroups, layers, and keyboard mapping is so vast.

The other point I like to raise is that the workflow of ANY synth has an effect on the outcome of a sound, from a sound design perspective. That's why I would probably use Serum or Phaseplant for hard bass, and Falcon for more layered stuff. :)

SoftSynthLover99
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203 posts since 27 Jun, 2019

Post Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:04 am

Falcon accomplishes just about everything I could ever want in a soft synth and then some! I’ve literally replaced all other software synths I previously used quite effortlessly and feel rather confident with all the expansions, adding vintage vault 3 and keysuite bundle, plus a bunch of other libraries from UVI. All my needs are covered from vintage analog synth to modern sounding synth, grand pianos, upright pianos electric pianos, strings orchestra etc it’s all covered.

I just started building live acoustic drum kits in Falcon recently (with my own samples) and that’s been such a breeze and a hassle free process that I can now do 100% of my keyboard, synth, piano and drum programming all from Falcon. Nothing else on the market comes close in terms of what’s possible inside 1 plug-in. Workflow is super quick and intuitive and I personally love the UI and the way you navigate everything.

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newuser2014
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64 posts since 14 Jan, 2014

Post Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am

Place a piano arpeggio in the Convolver accessed from the equalizer section

Place a wavetable in the IReverb

Make your own wavetables

In the LFO choose Chaos Lorenz or Rossler
But tempo sync - several of them running at different tempos as modulation source for your favorite parameters

Choose (any) oscillator and modulate every parameter
Audioterm is the nam shub for Falcon

chagzuki
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2447 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london

Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:47 am

newuser2014 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am
Place a piano arpeggio in the Convolver accessed from the equalizer section

Place a wavetable in the IReverb

Make your own wavetables

In the LFO choose Chaos Lorenz or Rossler
But tempo sync - several of them running at different tempos as modulation source for your favorite parameters

Choose (any) oscillator and modulate every parameter
Cool ideas. I haven't experimented with the convolver in these sorts of ways.
Every day takes figuring out all over again how to f#ckin’ live.

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Biome_Digital
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1660 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:38 am

chagzuki wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:47 am
newuser2014 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am
Place a piano arpeggio in the Convolver accessed from the equalizer section

Place a wavetable in the IReverb

Make your own wavetables

In the LFO choose Chaos Lorenz or Rossler
But tempo sync - several of them running at different tempos as modulation source for your favorite parameters

Choose (any) oscillator and modulate every parameter
Cool ideas. I haven't experimented with the convolver in these sorts of ways.
Nor I, but I shall this very instance! :D

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Biome_Digital
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Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:00 am

newuser2014 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am


Make your own wavetables

How?

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Sampleconstruct
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15732 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:30 am

Biome_Digital wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:00 am
newuser2014 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am


Make your own wavetables


How?
Serum, Icarus, Phase Plant all do the job.

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Biome_Digital
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1660 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:33 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:30 am
Biome_Digital wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:00 am
newuser2014 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am


Make your own wavetables


How?
Serum, Icarus, Phase Plant all do the job.
I know how to make wavetables. He's listing things you can do in Flacon (see above). How do you make wavetables in Falcon?

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Sampleconstruct
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Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:39 am

Biome_Digital wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:33 am
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:30 am
Biome_Digital wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:00 am
newuser2014 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am


Make your own wavetables


How?
Serum, Icarus, Phase Plant all do the job.
I know how to make wavetables. He's listing things you can do in Flacon (see above). How do you make wavetables in Falcon?
You don't, it's just a wt player.

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Biome_Digital
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1660 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide

Post Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:44 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:39 am
Biome_Digital wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:33 am
Sampleconstruct wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:30 am
Biome_Digital wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:00 am
newuser2014 wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:51 am


Make your own wavetables


How?
Serum, Icarus, Phase Plant all do the job.
I know how to make wavetables. He's listing things you can do in Flacon (see above). How do you make wavetables in Falcon?
You don't, it's just a wt player.
That's what I though, hence my question to the poster above. I guess they meant something else.

maximoog
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188 posts since 22 Jan, 2007

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:00 am

Apple Silicon systems will no longer support native VST2. Isn't it about time for a VST3 version of Falcon?

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WatchTheGuitar
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9396 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:52 am

maximoog wrote:
Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:00 am
Apple Silicon systems will no longer support native VST2. Isn't it about time for a VST3 version of Falcon?
Are you sure about that?

maximoog
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188 posts since 22 Jan, 2007

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:52 am

Yes, that's what it says here in the middle section:

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-1 ... 022/748776

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WatchTheGuitar
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9396 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:56 am

maximoog wrote:
Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:52 am
Yes, that's what it says here in the middle section:

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-1 ... 022/748776
You’re right though I’m sure I’ve read people claiming VST2 with native support, odd.
I suppose the only thing I can’t make out there is whether they’re saying VST2 won’t run on any DAW in native mode or just Cubase 12, as that’s what that thread topic is about.

maximoog
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188 posts since 22 Jan, 2007

Post Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:38 am

WatchTheGuitar wrote:
Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:56 am
maximoog wrote:
Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:52 am
Yes, that's what it says here in the middle section:

https://forums.steinberg.net/t/cubase-1 ... 022/748776
You’re right though I’m sure I’ve read people claiming VST2 with native support, odd.
I suppose the only thing I can’t make out there is whether they’re saying VST2 won’t run on any DAW in native mode or just Cubase 12, as that’s what that thread topic is about.
VST2 does not run in any DAW because the VST2 SDK is simply no longer supported there. VST2 will then only work with Rosetta.

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