StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (FR/ideas cycle)

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Lotuzia
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9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Post Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:53 am

rob_lee wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:53 am
rob_lee wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:06 am
Well I downloaded the trial licence to my iLok the other day and have been checking it out in Live and it seems to work ok however it's a no go in Logic. It's not even recognised in the plugin manager. I checked to see if StiX was blacklisted but it's not even in the list. Any ideas?
It seems a reboot is needed for not only StiX but lots of other plugins I have been reinstalling on Mojave. All good and working well in Logic now.. very nice features, darl skin rocks. Try it out more today :tu:

Rob
Thanks for the reportRob :tu: It might help people reading this while beeing in the same situation you were.
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Lotuzia
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9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:28 am

StiX v1.5.1 beta available

* 525 new Patterns Presets added.
* Drag'n'drop pattern to Daw fixed in all Daws


Download at the usual location.
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fantasyfancy
KVRer
15 posts since 26 Nov, 2018

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:02 am

When is the release version predicted released, Lotuzia? The features are a must to make good use of StiX. I own it and just left it alone because the presets were very limited.

Lotuzia
KVRAF
9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:27 am

fantasyfancy wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:02 am
When is the release version predicted released, Lotuzia? The features are a must to make good use of StiX. I own it and just left it alone because the presets were very limited.
Wich type of presets ?
StiX has many types of presets

Global : Includes up to 12 patterns, 1 song, one drumkit, 10 drumpad/drumsounds, all mixer/effects settings
Drum kits : Includes 10 drumpad
Drum Pads : A drum sound made with more than 130 synthesis parameters
Patterns : A rythm pattenr
Song : A chain of patterns
Samples : A sample

All in all StiX has around 2500 presets atm iirc : Approx 175 Global presets, 100 drumkits, 800 drumpads, 850 patterns, etc.

You can also mass import/mass tag your own samples, create new drumkits on the fly, randomize patterns or sequencer lines, so one can quite easily expand the global ecosystem.

Technically speaking there are for example more drumpads than the strict number of presets I mentioned, because we did not save every analog kick variation found in some global preset as a single drumpad preset. Same goes for the drumkits or patterns.

The fact that you can mix/match different presets, and presets types in the preset manager increases the possibilities. StiX is actually a kind of huge drum world Lego system.

But well, what kind and type of presets do you expect to find more in the future ?

(as for the beta, it's already available on the site, and will be turned in def. v1.5.1 version at one point within the next weeks)
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fantasyfancy
KVRer
15 posts since 26 Nov, 2018

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:33 am

I loved the demo audio demo's for StiX. Looks like it's well on it's way to V2. I know it's a different flavor but maybe you can add probability sequencing and make StiX compete better with FXpansion Geist 2. I made a few things with Geist 2 and it's great to be able to sequence tons of pattern steps with a probability amount per step and a different loop point on each drum sound. You can do deep polyrhythmic stuff and isometric patterns with Geist or just fun stuff. StiX is a keeper I think.

Lotuzia
KVRAF
9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:02 am

fantasyfancy wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:33 am
I loved the demo audio demo's for StiX. Looks like it's well on it's way to V2. I know it's a different flavor but maybe you can add probability sequencing and make StiX compete better with FXpansion Geist 2. I made a few things with Geist 2 and it's great to be able to sequence tons of pattern steps with a probability amount per step and a different loop point on each drum sound. You can do deep polyrhythmic stuff and isometric patterns with Geist or just fun stuff. StiX is a keeper I think.
Probabilities and individual sequence end points might come at a point. Note : You can more/less fake polyrythms with the PolyStep modulator (with clever parameters modulations admitedly) but it's not strictly similar it's true (though interesting and does things that Geist or any other drum machine can't do)

Then, keep in mind that Geist only adresses samples as sound sources : In StiX you have state of the art analog modelled oscillators ( Morphing capability is a bonus), Sine + waveshaping, FM synthesis@audiorate, Cross Synthesis etc AND also finally ... samples. Add last generation zdf analog filters, special r-clap envelopes etc. All of this Geist can't do.

Also StiX is a one panel Drum Machine with a very fast workflow. It's very intuitive and the learning curve is rather fast I think, given the depth it delivers.

So that (imho) : StiX and Geist should compliment each other nicely, more than compete.
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fantasyfancy
KVRer
15 posts since 26 Nov, 2018

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:17 am

I'll check it out again much more thoroughly when the post beta of v1.5.1 is out. I think it needs more complete drumkits programmed into another future version. Thanks for your replies.

Lotuzia
KVRAF
9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:25 am

fantasyfancy wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:17 am
I'll check it out again much more thoroughly when the post beta of v1.5.1 is out. I think it needs more complete drumkits programmed into another future version. Thanks for your replies.
Noted. Thanks for your input. Yes, we'll add some over time.

Just in case you miss it :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov04-q1xObo

The automatic drumkit creation tool also incorporates automatically new drumpads (your own, for example with your own samples, or 3rd party). So this video was made with StiX 1.0, and would probaly be different now with v 1.5)
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Lotuzia
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Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:00 am

-Very long and- In depth review of StiX v1.5 from Markus Schroeder at Amazona.de + comparisons with other drum machines + some sound examples (at the bottom of the page).

For Markus, StiX is 'his number one drum machine' :love:

' Pros :
  • überragender Sequencer mit nicht-systemischer Polyrhythmikfähigkeit
    Klang
    Zugriff auf die komplette Klangsynthese
    eigene Presets für Instrumente, Kits und Pattern
    Multiausgänge
https://www.amazona.de/test-xils-lab-st ... nthesizer/

It's in German, but for non german readers, just use Google Translate.(right click on page, translate)
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CinningBao
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1822 posts since 15 Apr, 2004 from Capital City, UK

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:16 am

Probably might be wise to translate that list of Pros if you're actually going to plonk them in KVR.?

Lotuzia
KVRAF
9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am

CinningBao wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:16 am
Probably might be wise to translate that list of Pros if you're actually going to plonk them in KVR.?
Oops I'll try to translate from German to French, then French to English

' Pros :
  • überragender Sequencer mit nicht-systemischer Polyrhythmikfähigkeit
    Klang
    Zugriff auf die komplette Klangsynthese
    eigene Presets für Instrumente, Kits und Pattern
    Multiausgänge
https://www.amazona.de/test-xils-lab-st ... nthesizer/

Something like :
Pros :
  • Exceptionnal sequencer with non systemic polyrythmic capabilities
    The Sound !
    Full access to deep sound synthesis
    Individual Presets for instruments (drumpads), drum kits & patterns
    Multi outputs version
Native German readers please correct me if i'm wrong :)
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nevis
KVRist
152 posts since 17 Dec, 2016 from Germany

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:02 pm

Lotuzia wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am
' Pros :
  • überragender Sequencer mit nicht-systemischer Polyrhythmikfähigkeit
    Klang
    Zugriff auf die komplette Klangsynthese
    eigene Presets für Instrumente, Kits und Pattern
    Multiausgänge
Pros:
  • Outstanding sequencer with non-systemic polyrythmic capabilities
    Sound
    Access to complete sound synthesis
    Individual presets for instruments, kits and patterns
    Multiple outputs
Lotuzia wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am
Native German readers please correct me if i'm wrong :)
Done. Not a native English speaker though. Dilemma.

elassi
KVRAF
2143 posts since 8 Sep, 2009

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:14 pm

The author doesn't hide though that he's kind of a fanboy... and the polyrythmic headline is actually misleading. But, interesting drum machine, no question. Will give it a try sooner or later because - at least to my needs - it fills a gap between MDrummer and Atlas.

Lotuzia
KVRAF
9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:57 am

nevis wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:02 pm
Lotuzia wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am
' Pros :
  • überragender Sequencer mit nicht-systemischer Polyrhythmikfähigkeit
    Klang
    Zugriff auf die komplette Klangsynthese
    eigene Presets für Instrumente, Kits und Pattern
    Multiausgänge
Pros:
  • Outstanding sequencer with non-systemic polyrythmic capabilities
    Sound
    Access to complete sound synthesis
    Individual presets for instruments, kits and patterns
    Multiple outputs
Lotuzia wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:43 am
Native German readers please correct me if i'm wrong :)
Done. Not a native English speaker though. Dilemma.
Thanks :) I wasn't that far :) My german is very rusty I'm afraid :(
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Lotuzia
KVRAF
9971 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: StiX : MultiSynthesis Drum Machine/Next gen XoX sequencer (V1.5 Released+ Intro price 99€)

Post Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:07 am

elassi wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:14 pm
The author doesn't hide though that he's kind of a fanboy... and the polyrythmic headline is actually misleading. But, interesting drum machine, no question. Will give it a try sooner or later because - at least to my needs - it fills a gap between MDrummer and Atlas.
You can get a time limited full featured demo on demand on xils site. And well, there's never been a better time window to purchase StiX than ... now.

Kevin Schroeder : He has written over 250 articles/reviews for Amazona. Iirc, his 1st review of StiX in 2016 had some concerns we tried to adress, such as not enough patterns saved as presets,though the factory global presets already included more than 700 different patterns at that time. But, yes, he likes StiX, and also, I must say that reading his article, he has a very good knowledge of it, wich I feel is sometimes a bit lacking from certain reviews (not especially about StiX, but intruments reviews in general). I read some of his other articles, and found out that he has a clear and informed vision of all the instruments. It's a long review, but I think it explains very well a lot of what StiX is : A versatile giant Lego system for electronic drums.
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