Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - soon version 1.5.0 for free!

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Stefken
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1591 posts since 9 Nov, 2016

Post Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:03 am

neverfall wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:41 am
Stefken wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:23 am
The intro price (-30%) for the Dark Avenger skins ends in 48 hours. (The bundle adds another -25%).
So hurry.

You can get them at https://stefken.wixsite.com/skins.

The Dark Avengers series consists of:


Dark Avenger - Blue


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Dark Avenger - Cyanide


DAC1-1200.jpg



Dark Avenger - Original


avenger_reduced.jpg
Any chance that these skins will go on sale again soon? I just purchased Avenger, but the original skin leaves so much to be desired.
You can expect sales when Avenger 1.5 comes along, and on the usual suspects like black friday, christmas and such.

kiezum
KVRian
517 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:50 am

XxEDxX wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:42 am
As a friendly tip: you may wait with Avenger due to its changes to the copy protection scheme. Unlike phase plant, it'll not be a easy license file anymore.
Are they going to change the copy protection scheme? Not an easy copy protection anymore? Sigh...

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msvs
KVRAF
1559 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:25 pm

it will stay nearly the same experience for the user, except its more secure. More infos soon

sircuit
KVRian
677 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:53 am

CharlieCrizzle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:37 am
it looks very advanced. is it real bad on cpu>?
Well, definitely try before you buy. Many people hope to use it on multiple tracks, I can't. 16 Avengers on an empty project take 7.5 GB of RAM (Ableton Live is 600 MB empty slate) - a normal Live project with 50+ tracks and Max plugins and 16 Avengers on top can easily reach 20+ GB in RAM and, as you can imagine, things can go south. So I'll rather use anything but Avenger and for the sounds I need from Avenger just sample them and then remove Avenger from the project. But that's just me. Different people, different experiences.
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The Sarge!
KVRist
124 posts since 7 Jul, 2004 from CrAzY-SoUnDlAbS

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Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:06 am

@sircuit
over 50 tracks didn´t mean EDM or something like this, didn´t it?
watcha gonna do, brother?

sircuit
KVRian
677 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:42 am

The Sarge! wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:06 am
@sircuit
over 50 tracks didn´t mean EDM or something like this, didn´t it?
Electronic dance music as in house/techno. You'll need that amount eventually (by the end of the production), from layers, separate drum hits and unique fx (unique in the sense is playing once in the entire song). That is, if you want to sound as any other Beatport song.
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100tifiko
KVRist
285 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

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Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:43 am

CharlieCrizzle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:37 am
it looks very advanced. is it real bad on cpu>?
If you can think it there is way to do it in Avenger that's what its great example if you want to just sidechain the low end add a MB Limiter on the master and route an LFO on the post gain creat your own sidechain curve and move the first band to target just the sub and your done. There are ways to save CPU if you mix everything in Avenger :)

macmuse
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481 posts since 23 Jun, 2004

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Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:59 am

sircuit wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:53 am
CharlieCrizzle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:37 am
it looks very advanced. is it real bad on cpu>?
Well, definitely try before you buy. Many people hope to use it on multiple tracks, I can't. 16 Avengers on an empty project take 7.5 GB of RAM (Ableton Live is 600 MB empty slate) - a normal Live project with 50+ tracks and Max plugins and 16 Avengers on top can easily reach 20+ GB in RAM and, as you can imagine, things can go south. So I'll rather use anything but Avenger and for the sounds I need from Avenger just sample them and then remove Avenger from the project. But that's just me. Different people, different experiences.
It's pretty heavy for me, wish that were not so. Really pushes the limit of my CPU. I would use more tracks of it if it were more efficient. I would love for them to optimize it a bit better in future updates, because it would be nice to not have to be so careful of it by having to bounce and remove it immediately, etc.
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The Sarge!
KVRist
124 posts since 7 Jul, 2004 from CrAzY-SoUnDlAbS

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:00 am

@sircuit
thanks for your answer
I´m not at Beatport, I´m just a hobbyist, so that maybe is the reason for needing not so many tracks
watcha gonna do, brother?

sircuit
KVRian
677 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:04 am

100tifiko wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:43 am
CharlieCrizzle wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:37 am
it looks very advanced. is it real bad on cpu>?
If you can think it there is way to do it in Avenger that's what its great example if you want to just sidechain the low end add a MB Limiter on the master and route an LFO on the post gain creat your own sidechain curve and move the first band to target just the sub and your done. There are ways to save CPU if you mix everything in Avenger :)
Naah, you save way more CPU if you disable everything onboard which is not sound design related (like ambient reverb, delay, limiter, compressor, eq) and use the appropriate processing and sends in your daw.

I have the feeling that many people are using Avenger in limited "test" scenarios. Put the thing in a busy project and then get back with conclusions :)

100tifiko
KVRist
285 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:49 am

Actually that's the whole point of buying avenger because of its effects that sound so good like the multiband distortion and you can route anything to everything but I also use some of my favorite plugins to finish a clean mix

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msvs
KVRAF
1559 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:37 am

Avenger needs a powerful machine, thats for sure

mitchiemasha
KVRist
300 posts since 15 Aug, 2011 from teesside

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:50 am

Yeap... after buying Avenger and loving it. I upgraded to a nice i7 9700k OC to 5.0. That's more than enough Avenger. PCIe NVMe for fast load times, preset browsing... Shame Cubase doesn't seem to take advantage of this and still takes forever to load.
MSI z390, i7 9700k, Noctua NH-U9S, NVME 970 Pro, 16GB 3000C15, BeQuiet S11, W10, Cubase 10.
Virus TI (INTERGRATED), Yamaha CS2x (Custom Mapped), JV1080, Drum Station.

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ReboundAudio
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95 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:10 am

It also depents how you design your presets. The synth offers a lot possibilities. That does NOT mean, that you can use all together without having any CPU trouble...
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msvs
KVRAF
1559 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:57 am

yes the sound designer has the responsibility to optimize for CPU. Sometime different routings or other solutions for certain tasks lead to significant CPU improvement. Unfortunately a lot of designers dont care and just stack saw after saw. The presets we have on sale are optimized btw

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