Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

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Ryan99
KVRian
768 posts since 30 Nov, 2011

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:26 am

Some people here are full of themselves. All I’m saying is that I understand the need for a change. It doesn’t please me, but after spending money on premium stuff, I want to have access to something that only actual buyers can get.

You can disagree, but please stay polite.

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Hink
Rad Grandad
30655 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:39 am

tapekiller wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 3:22 am
kevvvvv wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:52 am
KVR isn't a place for obtaining or discussing warez, cracks, porn, politics, etc.
The difference here is that nobody is discussing warez per se, but only mentioning them to make a point about what is happening for every legit user.

Changes to the legit software were made because of warez.
The subject is changes to legit software, not warez.

IF someone said that Avenger might have to change copy protection again if who got around Auto-Tune's codemeter protection takes a look at Avenger, I wouldn't classify it as warez discussion, because it concerns the legit user using the legit software and it's inextricably tied to the matter at hand.

Since you're a moderator inform me please, how can we say that sylenth1, rapid, and other software didn't need to use third party copy protection systems and yet their software is still "safe from some evil men work aimed to distribute alternative version of said software through non-legal means" without making it about warez/cracks per se? This is important, because I don't want to trigger anyone and get banned just because a discussion about the legal software (so, not warez) needs to mention (NOT discuss) one of the topics which discussion is forbidden?

I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make.
I hope you understand another point, kevvvvv as do I and other mods actually need to make this reminder because if we dont then eventually it will go astray. Some of the wording in this thread is inviting such talk. Mentioning warez in itself could lead a new member to say what's warez and seek it out just on that one word.
Members are asked to respect the copyright of other users, sites, media, etc. Users linking to, asking for information about, or blatantly bragging about using, warez, crackz, pirated sample content, re-printing material without permission, etc. will result in your post being edited / deleted, and you may be issued with a warning and / or a ban.
there is your actual rule, the problem is it is very easy to forget and to make a point one might link to a site as evidence (happened many times), I myself have got posts from members telling me I dont need to say this stuff often...but we do, as did kevvvvv in this case. It's just a reminder, that's all, we really need to enforce this rule very tightly because this is something if not constantly being monitored could bring down this site.

It should not affect any members us making these reminders, we get many new members a day so we need to stay vigilant everyday :)
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tapekiller
KVRist
99 posts since 6 Nov, 2014

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:35 am

Hink wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 7:39 am
Members are asked to respect the copyright of other users, sites, media, etc. Users linking to, asking for information about, or blatantly bragging about using, warez, crackz, pirated sample content, re-printing material without permission, etc. will result in your post being edited / deleted, and you may be issued with a warning and / or a ban.
there is your actual rule, the problem is it is very easy to forget and to make a point one might link to a site as evidence (happened many times), I myself have got posts from members telling me I dont need to say this stuff often...but we do, as did kevvvvv in this case. It's just a reminder, that's all, we really need to enforce this rule very tightly because this is something if not constantly being monitored could bring down this site.

It should not affect any members us making these reminders, we get many new members a day so we need to stay vigilant everyday :)
I see. Even though I think pretty much everyone with an internet connection knows there might be illegal versions of a program I can understand if there are clueless people that go and try to seek the information (they might as well seek it after reading the rules themselves), or above everything else if it can compromise the website (that seems more obvious and I definitely agree with).
Still, I hope that, regardless of the choice of words, mentioning the phenomenon doesn't automatically fall into trasgression territory, as long as it's not linking, provinding informations about how to obtain them, bragging about using or knowing whereabouts of pirated content.
As an example, would it be ok or not to say that a certain software had their protection defeated, in case that software uses the same copy protection method?

Caine123
KVRAF
6158 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:04 am

Can we stop talking about illegal, legal, freeware blablabla? It is about avenger and i think everyone knows there are legal methods and illegal.... geez.... and also everyone should know taking something which costs normally and is hosted on inofficial pages and suspicious as free isnt new and legal... and only because something gets cracked shouldnt be taken as an excuse to do the same....

I wait still until codemeter is confirmed working well then i upgrade.
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e@rs
KVRAF
4421 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:17 am

laz wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:23 am
e@rs wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:19 am
I find infuriating the fact that I cannot use offline activation for the latest version. 3 USBs on my laptop: mouse, sound card, flash drive. I cannot use my iLok and eLicenser dongles, and they want me to buy an overpriced third dongle? FFS!
I am one of those guys who need/must have a Dongle but to be honest Vengeance at this point is not forcing you to have a Dongle. It's your choice to have a software or hardware protection. Only down side is, you need to "refresh" every 90 days your activation but I am ok with this.
My DAW machine is offline and I intend to keep it that way, so (if I understood correctly) I'm forced to get the dongle (does this also reset the license every 3 months?). At least at this time, because:
noiseboyuk wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:28 am
They have said this is coming quite soon.
Guess I missed this announcement... Thanx! I'll temper my fury and wait then.

laz
KVRist
36 posts since 3 Apr, 2004

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:21 pm

e@rs wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 11:17 am
laz wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:23 am
e@rs wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:19 am
I find infuriating the fact that I cannot use offline activation for the latest version. 3 USBs on my laptop: mouse, sound card, flash drive. I cannot use my iLok and eLicenser dongles, and they want me to buy an overpriced third dongle? FFS!
I am one of those guys who need/must have a Dongle but to be honest Vengeance at this point is not forcing you to have a Dongle. It's your choice to have a software or hardware protection. Only down side is, you need to "refresh" every 90 days your activation but I am ok with this.
My DAW machine is offline and I intend to keep it that way, so (if I understood correctly) I'm forced to get the dongle (does this also reset the license every 3 months?). At least at this time, because:
My studio computers (5 in number) are also offline in a closed network, that's one more reason why I need the Dongle. The downside is I don't have any info IF with the Dongle we have to reset. I ordered one and I have to test myself. I will post news how stable and how practical it is when I get it.

ztrauq
KVRist
200 posts since 13 Dec, 2004 from USA

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 1:52 am

Given that I'm seriously considering phasing out iLok on my systems, I don't want CodeMeter on there either. Especially if (as seems to be implied from comments here) you can permanently lose license activations if something goes wrong with your computer and you can't do a deactivation.

The way I see it, I paid for the software, received it and can use that software. As for upgrades... paid or free, I can choose to upgrade, or not.

If you want to talk the price of putting in copy protection, well... I was fully intending to buy one, maybe two of the pick-packs for the expansions, as they do sound impressive. Due to this CodeMeter nonsense, I didn't buy any, and likely won't in the future unless the copy protection is rolled back to something reasonable and kept that way.

In the meantime, I suppose they can look forward to fun support requests from me as I try to keep the old version working indefinitely :)

Caine123
KVRAF
6158 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:14 am

is support still available for pre 1.5? i think not?
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kevvvvv
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2387 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:12 am

fwiw I've not experienced any codemeter problems.

initially awkward to install admittedly. But okay since then, eg, no probs installing expansions
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kevvvvv
vvvvvvv
2387 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:17 am

Anyone imported strings sfz into Avenger?

eg, like these https://gumroad.com/sigex or any others?
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invisiblesun
KVRer
12 posts since 13 Oct, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:02 am

Hi!
I have to get a new graphics card to be able to edit my drone videos. Does anyone know if this will affect my Avenger 1.4.10 installation? And if it does, will I be able to authorize it again or will I have to go to 1.5?

MW

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ReboundAudio
KVRist
179 posts since 20 Jan, 2019 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:21 pm

No joke! The random function and humanize in Avenger is one of the best functions.

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solar28
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49 posts since 8 Apr, 2005

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:56 pm

EDIT: In the end, it was chrome. I tried Firefox and all went well.
Chrome version: Version 78.0.3904.108 (Official Build) (64-bit)

Wow, I just cannot get Codemeter to activate avenger on my machine OR for the dongle. It's the propellerheads ignition key. On the vengeance website, it says "no CM Containers found". Then I try to do it file based, using the CmFAS assistant, and entering the Firm Code 6000977. I Click Commit and get "An error occured on communication level. CmDongle Version is too old, error 94.

This is CmStick 2.04. I've downloaded the latest Codemeter, rebooted multiple times, etc. I'm left with vps-avenger that I cannot update, and that I cannot authorize either to the dongle or directly to my computer! Ughh, I've lost a couple hours to this already. I don't like that there's literally NO WAY I can authorize! Pretty gross customer experience. I've scoured through the topic and noticed others having problems with authorizing on a system that has the ignition key, but I can't find any solutions. Frustrating.

I've also tried the youtube video about authorizing that has been posted.

tony10000
KVRian
750 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:55 pm

solar28 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:56 pm
EDIT: In the end, it was chrome. I tried Firefox and all went well.
Chrome version: Version 78.0.3904.108 (Official Build) (64-bit)

Wow, I just cannot get Codemeter to activate avenger on my machine OR for the dongle. It's the propellerheads ignition key. On the vengeance website, it says "no CM Containers found". Then I try to do it file based, using the CmFAS assistant, and entering the Firm Code 6000977. I Click Commit and get "An error occured on communication level. CmDongle Version is too old, error 94.

This is CmStick 2.04. I've downloaded the latest Codemeter, rebooted multiple times, etc. I'm left with vps-avenger that I cannot update, and that I cannot authorize either to the dongle or directly to my computer! Ughh, I've lost a couple hours to this already. I don't like that there's literally NO WAY I can authorize! Pretty gross customer experience. I've scoured through the topic and noticed others having problems with authorizing on a system that has the ignition key, but I can't find any solutions. Frustrating.

I've also tried the youtube video about authorizing that has been posted.
Check out: https://www.wibu.com/us/support/user/faq-codemeter.html

laz
KVRist
36 posts since 3 Apr, 2004

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:54 pm

solar28 wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:56 pm
EDIT: In the end, it was chrome. I tried Firefox and all went well.
Chrome version: Version 78.0.3904.108 (Official Build) (64-bit)

Wow, I just cannot get Codemeter to activate avenger on my machine OR for the dongle. It's the propellerheads ignition key. On the vengeance website, it says "no CM Containers found". Then I try to do it file based, using the CmFAS assistant, and entering the Firm Code 6000977. I Click Commit and get "An error occured on communication level. CmDongle Version is too old, error 94.

This is CmStick 2.04. I've downloaded the latest Codemeter, rebooted multiple times, etc. I'm left with vps-avenger that I cannot update, and that I cannot authorize either to the dongle or directly to my computer! Ughh, I've lost a couple hours to this already. I don't like that there's literally NO WAY I can authorize! Pretty gross customer experience. I've scoured through the topic and noticed others having problems with authorizing on a system that has the ignition key, but I can't find any solutions. Frustrating.

I've also tried the youtube video about authorizing that has been posted.
They said the CmDongle has to be version 3.

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