Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

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100tifiko
KVRist
294 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Post Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:22 pm

Don't know why manuel left this forum we got great ideas here from the beginning like the cross FM, analog filter and fixing the
v-saw for 2 4 6 it's a shame

Ryan99
KVRian
768 posts since 30 Nov, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:18 pm

100tifiko wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:22 pm
Don't know why manuel left this forum we got great ideas here from the beginning like the cross FM, analog filter and fixing the
v-saw for 2 4 6 it's a shame
Look at the 700 pages of bashing out of 769 and you will know why.

SirkusPi
KVRist
308 posts since 14 Aug, 2012

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:27 pm

100tifiko wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:22 pm
Don't know why manuel left this forum we got great ideas here from the beginning like the cross FM, analog filter and fixing the
v-saw for 2 4 6 it's a shame
Look at the 700 pages of Manuel having no good answer to the complaints from ripped-off consumers that Vengeance acted unethically in taking people's money and then imposing a new copy protection system after-the-fact, and you will understand why, given his inability to offer a valid response to people's reasonable complaints, he chose to abandon ship rather than defend the indefensible.

frizzbee
KVRist
256 posts since 11 Jan, 2015

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:38 pm

Ryan99 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:18 pm
Look at the 700 pages of bashing out of 769 and you will know why.
we've heard you. you can now stop whining on every page, exactly like you expect from the others :tu:

SirkusPi
KVRist
308 posts since 14 Aug, 2012

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:50 pm

frizzbee wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:38 pm
Ryan99 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:18 pm
Look at the 700 pages of bashing out of 769 and you will know why.
we've heard you. you can now stop whining on every page, exactly like you expect from the others :tu:
Agreed. I hereby commit that I will not make a single additional post complaining about Vengeance (as I have not for a while now) unless someone else first posts that Vengeance has been unfairly criticized. If everyone is willing to leave the discussion alone and simply move on, I am as well. But if people continue to post that Vengeance has been wrongly attacked, I feel duty bound to explain that the complaints were warranted.

tom27
KVRer
24 posts since 10 Sep, 2004

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Wed Jan 08, 2020 4:17 pm

By incident I have found this thread, checked Codemeter and indeed found my Avenger and Expansion licenses now having an expiration date, limited until March 01, 2020.

I wonder if it is legal to limit the usage of a fully paid and licensed product to only 3 months (without even informing the customers)? This looks like an ongoing trial version to me for which everyone paid full. Also, who is in charge of providing "new trial license period"?

And does anybody know if we (the users) will have to take manual action in the Codemeter software once the "trial" expires?

Thanks
Tom

Caine123
KVRAF
6155 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:24 am

You guys should also post on facebook etc and write support hopefully. Otherwise it doesnt help much.
If ttey are not like plugin alliance and censor EVERY critical post, people get aware of shit. Thats why i abandoned PA cause they deleted or never posted my comments which were not insulting, but asking for improvements, questions about missing features etc. The pa facebook group is for example a big joke !
DAW FL Studio Audio Interface Focusrite Scarlett 1st Gen 2i2 CPU Intel i7-7700K 4.20 GHz, RAM 32 GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @2400MHz Corsair Vengeance. MB Asus Prime Z270-K, GPU Gainward 1070 GTX GS 8GB NT Be Quiet DP 550W OS Win10 64Bit

pascal020
KVRer
19 posts since 19 May, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:00 am

It doesnt help much because most customers are probally satisfied customers. So why not stop using the product and move on?

Why trying to convert satisfied customers to complainers? Personal vendetta?

100tifiko
KVRist
294 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:11 am

Wish list for 2.0
1 wavetable editor
2 real sequencer
3 a way to fm the filter
4 add ramdon on shape for v saw
5 multi timberal

5Lives
KVRian
544 posts since 10 Nov, 2005 from New York City

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:15 pm

Is it possible to sell Avenger post the Codemeter change? I know before you would sell the eLicenser dongle as well, but what about now? I'm rethinking my desire to allow something like Codemeter run in the background all the time on my new machine.

Elektronisch
KVRAF
3792 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:08 am

100tifiko wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:11 am
Wish list for 2.0
1 wavetable editor
2 real sequencer
3 a way to fm the filter
4 add ramdon on shape for v saw
5 multi timberal
everything is available in 1.5 except for wavetable editor like you have in serum or dune, but it has quite deep modulation posibilities there.

and sequencer is real in 1.5 aswel, not imaginery

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zvenx
KVRAF
7350 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:29 am

5Lives wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:15 pm
Is it possible to sell Avenger post the Codemeter change? I know before you would sell the eLicenser dongle as well, but what about now? I'm rethinking my desire to allow something like Codemeter run in the background all the time on my new machine.
Avenger never 'came' with eLicenser afaik. You can still sell it post codemeter. However when I last looked on the Sell+ Buy marketplace here there were a few sellers who had been trying to sell for weeks.
rsp
sound sculptist

100tifiko
KVRist
294 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:52 am

Elektronisch wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:08 am
100tifiko wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:11 am
Wish list for 2.0
1 wavetable editor
2 real sequencer
3 a way to fm the filter
4 add ramdon on shape for v saw
5 multi timberal
everything is available in 1.5 except for wavetable editor like you have in serum or dune, but it has quite deep modulation posibilities there.

and sequencer is real in 1.5 aswel, not imaginery

Wrong i got 1.5.5 and it doesn't have a real sequencer were you can input notes and make your own chords it only affectd the amplitud and it can be use as a mod source but you can't add notes to make chords also it is not multi timberal neither and we don't have PM phase modulation only FM and AM

5Lives
KVRian
544 posts since 10 Nov, 2005 from New York City

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:14 am

zvenx wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:29 am
5Lives wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:15 pm
Is it possible to sell Avenger post the Codemeter change? I know before you would sell the eLicenser dongle as well, but what about now? I'm rethinking my desire to allow something like Codemeter run in the background all the time on my new machine.
Avenger never 'came' with eLicenser afaik. You can still sell it post codemeter. However when I last looked on the Sell+ Buy marketplace here there were a few sellers who had been trying to sell for weeks.
rsp
I've noticed that - bummer the demand doesn't seem to be there these days. I haven't been able to find the instructions for selling Avenger. Guess I'll need to email Vengeance.

Elektronisch
KVRAF
3792 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.5.0 update!

Post Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:28 am

100tifiko wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:52 am
Elektronisch wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:08 am
100tifiko wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:11 am
Wish list for 2.0
1 wavetable editor
2 real sequencer
3 a way to fm the filter
4 add ramdon on shape for v saw
5 multi timberal
everything is available in 1.5 except for wavetable editor like you have in serum or dune, but it has quite deep modulation posibilities there.

and sequencer is real in 1.5 aswel, not imaginery

Wrong i got 1.5.5 and it doesn't have a real sequencer were you can input notes and make your own chords it only affectd the amplitud and it can be use as a mod source but you can't add notes to make chords also it is not multi timberal neither and we don't have PM phase modulation only FM and AM
You can do chords and you can have multiple outputs each on own mixer chanel in DAW. In FL you can have master and 4 auxes besides having whole drum kit having own mixer chanel in DAW. But if thats not enough you can open as many instances as you want and here is your ultimate multitimbrality. If you dont know how to use the software go read the manual, no need to spread false information :)

Also why do you need phase modulation? you certainly got Avenger not because of phase modulation, other then that you requested FM to filter which is there already :)

Im starting to see why developers do not want to involve with forum users :) Go read the manual :)

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